If I could see the new Shell Rotella T6 15w40 Synthetic at any store in Canada, I'll buy it, I've searched lots of places with no luck in Canada
As long as the spec and weight are what the manufacture calls for, brand don't matter. When someone can show me a test where Brand X boutique syn significantly reduces wear compared to Brand Y store brand syn, then I'd say there's a valid argument. Until then, there isn't...really can not agree. does the bike have a wet or dry clutch, motorcycles, being mainly air cooled stress oil way more than a car. i have a buddy who is a works rider for HARLEY, travels about 175,000 a year for them and rides 8 of his personal bikes. i have sold hundreds of gallons of oil, and when asked explained the correct oil for the application.
reminds me of oem printer cartridges, vs refill kits.But it's "M O T O R C Y C L E O I L" man!...
Yup, not every blender spends the money to certify even though its virtually identical to those that do.
As long as the spec and weight are what the manufacture calls for, brand don't matter.
And yet people still feel the need to spend $15 a qt to get a warm fuzzy...it's their money...According to Blackstone's oil data they don’t see a lot of difference between brands in terms of wear for most types of engines.
"Well, we’re no closer to saying that one type of oil is better than another,
that’s for sure. We see much more variation in wear levels from the type
of engine, the time on the oil, the viscosity, the use the engine sees, etc.
Whatever differences exist from oil brand to oil brand, we don’t see a lot
of difference in terms of wear for most types of engines."
T5 is a semi synthetic, from the bike forums it seems to work well.If I could see the new Shell Rotella T6 15w40 Synthetic at any store in Canada, I'll buy it, I've searched lots of places with no luck in Canada
I agree wear and tear is plus or minus either way. Where I will differ is shift quality. Does little to no good to spend half as much on oil and change it almost twice as often with filters every other time. Many higher priced syn oils shine here and maintain shift quality. M1 MC oil in either flavor 10w40 4T or 20w50 V-Twin flat get it done for me. From my experience conventional lower-priced oil doesn't in a shared sump for 3000-3500 miles, much less 5000 or more miles which is a recommended OCI from most manufacturers.As long as the spec and weight are what the manufacture calls for, brand don't matter. When someone can show me a test where Brand X boutique syn significantly reduces wear compared to Brand Y store brand syn, then I'd say there's a valid argument. Until then, there isn't...
I wasn't comparing conventionals to synthetics, I'm comparing store brand synthetics, to name brand synthetics...comparing dinos to syns is an apples to oranges comparison...I agree wear and tear is plus or minus either way. Where I will differ is shift quality. Does little to no good to spend half as much on oil and change it almost twice as often with filters every other time. Many higher priced syn oils shine here and maintain shift quality. M1 MC oil in either flavor 10w40 4T or 20w50 V-Twin flat get it done for me. From my experience conventional lower-priced oil doesn't in a shared sump for 3000-3500 miles, much less 5000 or more miles which is a recommended OCI from most manufacturers.
Understood. My apologies for equating apples to oranges on that. I agree, any oil branded HD, Honda or Yamaha is spending money where it doesn't need to be spent.I wasn't comparing conventionals to synthetics, I'm comparing store brand synthetics, to name brand synthetics...comparing dinos to syns is an apples to oranges comparison...
Not only those, oils like Redline, Amsoil, Royal Purple, etc, you're mainly paying for the name...Understood. My apologies for equating apples to oranges on that. I agree, any oil branded HD, Honda or Yamaha is spending money where it doesn't need to be spent.
When you've already paid double for the bike and outfit, why not the oil too?Why pay double the price when it isn't necessary?
You're talking about a certain group of brand loyal riders, of which I am not...When you've already paid double for the bike and outfit, why not the oil too?
I've always changed the filter at every oil change on every vehicle I've ever owned...I have never seen an owner's manual that required a certain brand of motor oil. It may mention "Moto Lube 10w40 or equivalent" and that leaves the door open for all the other perfectly suitable oils on the market. And grampi you are correct -- the main points are that the oil meets the spec and be the correct viscosity. That's about it. Oh yeah, and do the oil/filter service at the appropriate intervals LOL.
Merely pointing out the people that cosplay as tough guys / power rangers are the same types that tend to buy oil where they bought the bike...You're talking about a certain group of brand loyal riders, of which I am not...