Pennzoil Ultra Platinum for 2024 Ford F150 2.7L Ecoboost
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The Pennzoil Ultra Platinum might not meet Fords WSS-M2C946-B1 spec because it contains too much calcium? Higher amounts of calcium help contribute to LSPI events and is why its been reduced in many modern oils. Use only the approved oil in your new truck and retain the receipts with the mileage, date and vin on them.
I have been running primarily PUP 5W-30 for quite a while (past 25k miles or so) in my 2022 F-150 w/2.7 with no issues... It's a very popular choice amongst the EcoBoost crowd.
Is there any data or pictures you can direct us to that shows any EcoBoosts with LSPI damage due to high calcium? Just wondering, because I’ve got at least 4 OCIs on a tuned & bolt-on 3.5EB making about double the crankshaft HP of the 2.7 and I’ve never had any issues. Here’s my most recent UOA on a 14.4k sample (was run 16k total before draining) of HPL No VII Euro 5w30, with nearly 2400ppm Calcium. Does PUP have anywhere near that much? I don’t know, it’s been several years since I’ve used it or gotten a UOA on it.
OP, I’d use the 5w30 personally, and that’s what my stepson has been running in his 2.7EB for about 35k with no issues. He’s also No VII Euro, but the PUP is a really good oil as well. Not trying to pressure or suggest you need HPL to accomplish what you’re asking.
I wasn't pointing out the Ecoboost 2.7 engine. All I know is that I'd use the oil Ford calls for in that engine if I owned the truck myself. The 2.7 Ecoboost seems to be a very good engine. But Ford most likely specifies the oil spec they do for LSPI purposes even if you don't find the 2.7 Ecoboost to have such an issue on the web.
The updated specification for this motor is WSS-M2C961-A1. As long as my Ranger is under warranty I have no plan to deviate from it.
PUP 5W-30 exceeds it according to their spec sheet. I've been using it in both of my 2.7's for 6 years. Neither one has complained it was too thin.
Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5W-30
So to answer your question, yes it's ideal.
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Most newer V.O.A.s' of PENNZOIL Ultra Platinum ( S.P. , GF-6A ) that I've seen online are less than 1,400 for calcium ( < 1,500 for L.S.P.I. ) . Using it in the '18 HYUNDAI Accent ( 1.6 Ltr. w/ G.D.I. ) and '25 KIA Soul ( 2.0 Ltr. w/ M.P.I. ) . Should be fine for FORD vehicles , ULTRA PLATINUM nothing more than PLATINUM w/o the DEXOS logo (
) on steroids ( >Boron , >Magnesium , >Phosphorous ,>Zinc , etc. ) . 
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It’s an SP oil it’s doesn’t contain a high amount of calcium. Perfectly fine to use
The 2.7/3.0 liter Ecoboost is Fords most reliable Ecoboost. The Ford Tech Makuloco on Youtube has a shop and he stated he only.saw 1 2.7 liter in for a timing job at 170k miles. In comparison he has seen a lot of 3.5 liter Ecoboosts in for timing jobs well before 150k miles.
As long as it meets the specs I dont think it matters with this engine. I only use Kirkland oil for my Ecoboost and do short drains. Kirkland oil on sale is 15 dollars for 5 quarts.
If I was going to buy an F150 for critical infrastructure like a hospital or if we were on an island it would be a non-Ecoboost engine but if that was not an option than it would be a 2.7.
As long as it meets the specs I dont think it matters with this engine. I only use Kirkland oil for my Ecoboost and do short drains. Kirkland oil on sale is 15 dollars for 5 quarts.
If I was going to buy an F150 for critical infrastructure like a hospital or if we were on an island it would be a non-Ecoboost engine but if that was not an option than it would be a 2.7.
Based on UOA here, the 2.7 has a tendency to experience fuel dilution as much as 5%. Mobil 1 ESP 0W-30 seems to be the choice for those in the know due to its high HTHS of 3.5 and KV100 ~12.3, characteristics which allow it to stay in grade with high dilution. It can also be acquired for about $6/qt, pretty affordable. I would run that and do 5000 mile changes. ESP is not WSS-M2C rated because you might lose 1% fuel economy over other ILSAC/API SP approved oils.
With that said, it is debatable whether ESP would have a discernible benefit over the life of the vehicle vs using the typical WSS approved oils with their 2.9-3.1 HTHS and KV100 ~10.5. The additive packages of both ESP and PUP are API SP compliant so there should be no threat of LSPI which I haven’t seen reported in the 2.7 anyway.
With that said, it is debatable whether ESP would have a discernible benefit over the life of the vehicle vs using the typical WSS approved oils with their 2.9-3.1 HTHS and KV100 ~10.5. The additive packages of both ESP and PUP are API SP compliant so there should be no threat of LSPI which I haven’t seen reported in the 2.7 anyway.
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Yeah, and actually available at Walmart now. I was shocked to see it there last week…never have I seen it on Walmart shelves before. I might start using it again, but I’m kind of committed to Mobil1 right now. But I can break up quick I guess.
I know Blackstone Labs is not the favorite of some forum members here but its all I have and I stopped testing.
Here I have Mobil 1 Delvac 5W40 ESP API SN, Quaker State Euro 5W40 API SP, Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5W30 API SP and SuperTech (Kirkland) 5W30 Full Synthetic API SP.
The higher iron count in the Delvac 5W40 was because that vehicle had a problem engine not because of the oil. That engine was opened 4 times and many things replaced.
Oils like PUP are basically the best oil that maker could.produce along its guidelines. So other similar oils are Mobil 1 EP, Valvoline EP, Castrol Edge EP...etc. Everyone has their own version.
Ive settled on what I can buy at Costco on sale.
Here I have Mobil 1 Delvac 5W40 ESP API SN, Quaker State Euro 5W40 API SP, Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5W30 API SP and SuperTech (Kirkland) 5W30 Full Synthetic API SP.
The higher iron count in the Delvac 5W40 was because that vehicle had a problem engine not because of the oil. That engine was opened 4 times and many things replaced.
Oils like PUP are basically the best oil that maker could.produce along its guidelines. So other similar oils are Mobil 1 EP, Valvoline EP, Castrol Edge EP...etc. Everyone has their own version.
Ive settled on what I can buy at Costco on sale.
there was a time it was almost impossible to find in Canada. since about 2014, it has been easy to find. Canadian tire always has it on sale at good prices and Walmart Canada also keep it in stock. but prices are always better at Canadian tire.Yeah, and actually available at Walmart now. I was shocked to see it there last week…never have I seen it on Walmart shelves before. I might start using it again, but I’m kind of committed to Mobil1 right now. But I can break up quick I guess.
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Main issue with the early 3.5 timing chains is one of Ford's suppliers screwed up the heat treat on the chain itself.
This is exactly what I have been running in my 2020 Expedition 3.5L Ecoboost.