One of my Turanzas just ripped apart on the way back from church. I prolly going with the Michelin's just wanted some confirmation
Opinions on Michelin Pilot AS 3
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It's a different animal compared to the Bridgestone Turanza, as the Turanza is a touring tire, vs the Pilot Sport A/S 3 a UHPAS tire.
As UGP said, they are two totally different classes of tires. The Michelin tire that most directly crosses to your Turanzas would be the Premier AS.
Do you really need an all-season tire in MS? Because a summer tire will be better in any conditions above 40 degrees.
What is your tire size?
Do you really need an all-season tire in MS? Because a summer tire will be better in any conditions above 40 degrees.
What is your tire size?
I had them on my GTI. Not the AS3 +. I felt they are overrated and weren't as good in the wet as I was expecting. I never did test them on the snow.
The Conti Sure Contact RX tires I have on my GTI are better in the wet. I have no idea if the AS3 + is an improvement or not.
The Conti Sure Contact RX tires I have on my GTI are better in the wet. I have no idea if the AS3 + is an improvement or not.
I have Pilot Sport A/S 3+ on my car and they are really great. If I had to do a lot of inclement weather driving, I would prefer Michelin Premier A/S. With the premier A/S, I can drive like a [censored] in the rain.
If you are looking for better handling with more tread life than summer tires, yes they are great tires. I got the A/S 3+'s on the front of my Corvette C5. The 3+'s make the steering feel very precise and they wear pretty good not getting all chewed up. They have amazing grip from their compound. Being that, it is slightly softer, so they may not last very long. I can make a fast, drastic lane change without losing any control. The tread shoulders are rounded and allow the tire to grip harder on fast turns.
My rear tires are the directional tread-patterned Michelin Pilot A/S pluses. This version can evacuate more water and also have very round tread shoulders. I've done hard launches with them losing traction, and the tread stays intact without getting all chewed up. Very tough yet sticky tire. These are much louder on smooth pavement though, so I'd get the 3+'s. I got different tires in the back because they were the only ones available for the rear size.
My rear tires are the directional tread-patterned Michelin Pilot A/S pluses. This version can evacuate more water and also have very round tread shoulders. I've done hard launches with them losing traction, and the tread stays intact without getting all chewed up. Very tough yet sticky tire. These are much louder on smooth pavement though, so I'd get the 3+'s. I got different tires in the back because they were the only ones available for the rear size.
I ran Pilot Sport A/S 2s, Turanza Serenities, and Primacy MXM4s back-to-back-to-back on the same car. I'm back to MXM4s on my current DD.
As said, the Pilot Sport is quite a different tire than either the Turanza or the MXM4. It killed the other two in dry grip, was not too bad wet, and and overall was the best handling set of tires I had on that particular car(Lincoln LS). They also gave the harshest ride, the most road noise, and lasted the least amount of time.
Honestly, blindfolded I doubt I could tell the difference between the Turanza and the MXM4. Both are comfortable and quiet touring tires, and as I recall are a fair bit heavier than PS(in the 235/50R17 size I used, I seem to have a number of 19lbs in my head for the Pilot and around 25lbs for the other two). Dry grip is excellent with both-it's not as good as the Pilot but for any sane street driving you probably have bigger worries if the dry grip of any is a problem. Still, I'd give a SLIGHT edge to the MXM4s over the Turanza when dry, but I'd say it shifts VERY slightly toward the Bridgestone when wet. I didn't see any appreciable difference in snow grip between the two-both are about as good as you could ask of an all season, and better than the Pilot.
My next set of tires on my daily will be either Turanzas or MXM4s, but in my experience they're similar enough that any specials or promotions running at the time I bought them would probably make decision for me.
As said, the Pilot Sport is quite a different tire than either the Turanza or the MXM4. It killed the other two in dry grip, was not too bad wet, and and overall was the best handling set of tires I had on that particular car(Lincoln LS). They also gave the harshest ride, the most road noise, and lasted the least amount of time.
Honestly, blindfolded I doubt I could tell the difference between the Turanza and the MXM4. Both are comfortable and quiet touring tires, and as I recall are a fair bit heavier than PS(in the 235/50R17 size I used, I seem to have a number of 19lbs in my head for the Pilot and around 25lbs for the other two). Dry grip is excellent with both-it's not as good as the Pilot but for any sane street driving you probably have bigger worries if the dry grip of any is a problem. Still, I'd give a SLIGHT edge to the MXM4s over the Turanza when dry, but I'd say it shifts VERY slightly toward the Bridgestone when wet. I didn't see any appreciable difference in snow grip between the two-both are about as good as you could ask of an all season, and better than the Pilot.
My next set of tires on my daily will be either Turanzas or MXM4s, but in my experience they're similar enough that any specials or promotions running at the time I bought them would probably make decision for me.
I live in north MS. Routinely gets below freezing. Usually 2-3 snows and 1-2 ice events
Originally Posted by Speak2Mountain
I live in north MS. Routinely gets below freezing. Usually 2-3 snows and 1-2 ice events
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What is your tire size? If you're lucky, Michelin might have the CrossClimate+ available
I live in north MS. Routinely gets below freezing. Usually 2-3 snows and 1-2 ice events
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What is your tire size? If you're lucky, Michelin might have the CrossClimate+ available
Originally Posted by slacktide_bitog
As UGP said, they are two totally different classes of tires. The Michelin tire that most directly crosses to your Turanzas would be the Premier AS.
Do you really need an all-season tire in MS? Because a summer tire will be better in any conditions above 40 degrees.
What is your tire size?
Not everyone wants a summer tire, especially dealing with replacing them more often.
Often enough many UHPAS tires offer near UHP-summer grip with a little more wear durability.
As UGP said, they are two totally different classes of tires. The Michelin tire that most directly crosses to your Turanzas would be the Premier AS.
Do you really need an all-season tire in MS? Because a summer tire will be better in any conditions above 40 degrees.
What is your tire size?
Not everyone wants a summer tire, especially dealing with replacing them more often.
Often enough many UHPAS tires offer near UHP-summer grip with a little more wear durability.
I have them on my 2008 Mercedes E-350. Some say they're better than Conti's, as they don't pop as easily. Otherwise I'd say they're not bad, thread wear isn't great on a low profile 18 inch rim. Otherwise no real complaints. Got them at Costco, they usually do a pretty good sale on Michelin and I think they're doing it again, usually $70 off and 1 cent installation and that's free rotation and balance plus a 5 year road hazard.
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One of my Turanzas just ripped apart on the way back from church. I prolly going with the Michelin's just wanted some confirmation
Mississippi? Get Michelin Pilot P4S.
One of my Turanzas just ripped apart on the way back from church. I prolly going with the Michelin's just wanted some confirmation
Mississippi? Get Michelin Pilot P4S.
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The Michelins would be a very, very good tire for this car. They don't have a massive treadlife (though a W-rated 40- or 45-series tire won't from anyone), and if you don't use the tread up, may dry crack earlier than most others.
Another good option would be the Vredestein Sporttrac5, with snow not being an issue. The General G-Max AS05 is a good all-around all-season.
Another good option would be the Vredestein Sporttrac5, with snow not being an issue. The General G-Max AS05 is a good all-around all-season.
The AS3 are a great performance tire that suck less than other performance tires in cold.
I have them on my Mercedes.
They are not good in snow, just less dangerous than summer performance tires.
A true all season would be my choice for any chance of encountering snow. I park the Mercedes when snow hits. I drive the Tundra, which has Nokian all weather tires that are great in snow.
I have them on my Mercedes.
They are not good in snow, just less dangerous than summer performance tires.
A true all season would be my choice for any chance of encountering snow. I park the Mercedes when snow hits. I drive the Tundra, which has Nokian all weather tires that are great in snow.
I have the PS A/S 3+ and much prefer them to my stock S001's but that's not what you're wanting to compare them with.
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