Oil Recommendation for GDI Honda J Series V6

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I have a 2024 Ridgeline that is about due for its first oil change. Since this engine is now DI, I'm debating on what oil would be best to run. In the past, I would have just went with M1 AFE. I'd prefer something I can get locally (Walmart) or quick shipped in 2-ish days. I'd really like to find something in a 6qt box/container, but those are few and far between so I'd need something I can buy in 5qt and 1qt from the same retailer. At the end of the day, any oil meeting Honda's specs should be more than fine, but I'm not opposed to spending a few more bucks for a better oil. Anyone running a SOHC DI J-Series Honda? What's you oil of choice?
 
Anything d1g3

There is nothing wrong with M1 AFE, which is d1g3 :)

Some Walmarts in the Nashville area carry this 6qt box of Havoline 0w20, but even if your local store doesn't, you can order it online. The Havoline is d1g3

While you're there, pick up a Fram PH7317.
 
DI creates its own problems, first, personally, I'd ignore the MM and not exceed 5K OCI, depending on your preference (CAFE compliance or Engine longevity) my choices would be either Mobil1 0w20 EP or 5W-30 EP, both excellent, well-formulated & proven oils, easily available at WallyWorld, AAP and AZ. I gave up on the filter wars and just use the Honda 15400-PLM-A02, UOA's show very low particle counts in my Hondas, and in the event of a warranty issue, it's what Honda uses. My not be everyone's choice, but works for me.
 
What's the oil capacity on that ? We had an Odyssey and our son had an Accord with the 3.5L V6 and I don't recall them needing more than 5 quarts. Disregard - I see the capacity is now 5.7 quarts.

Those 6-quart boxes never caught on at the WMs around here. Looking at their website, it's not even an option for ordering. If I need more than 5-quarts, I just buy (2) jugs, then for the next change, buy another 5-quart and use the leftover, and repeat. I also use 5W-30 in all (3) of our cars even though two of them spec 0W-20 (in US markets).
 
Anything d1g3

There is nothing wrong with M1 AFE, which is d1g3 :)

Some Walmarts in the Nashville area carry this 6qt box of Havoline 0w20, but even if your local store doesn't, you can order it online. The Havoline is d1g3

While you're there, pick up a Fram PH7317.
Unless Honda changed the capacity on the DI V6, the crankcase capacity on the V6 is 5 qts. (at least it is on my 2016 Acura) so the 6 qt box is not as convenient as a 5 qt. jug.
 
Mechanically, the J Series has never been hard on oil, and would continue to be without GDI. Keep an eye on fuel dilution, if it is minimal, just about anything would work. If it starts pumping fuel into the oil, adjust accordingly.
 
Unless Honda changed the capacity on the DI V6, the crankcase capacity on the V6 is 5 qts. (at least it is on my 2016 Acura) so the 6 qt box is not as convenient as a 5 qt. jug.

~4.5 in my two j's, but I like that because with th 6qt box I have lawnmower and makeup oil for the kids Jeep Compass that tends to use oil.
 
Responses are pretty much what I expected. much appreciated. Right now I'm at 7,900 miles and 20% on the MM. I wouldn't mind doing 5k OCIs but I hear that the MM gets out of sync if it's reset early. My 2013 Accord 2.4 Earth Dreams would run close to 9,500 miles before the MM reached 15% and that car has nearly 200k miles with my nephew and following the MM, or a little past 0%. With my Ridgeline and the "transfer case" and rear diff being part of the MM, I'm wondering how to keep those items on track if I change the oil at 5k miles.
 
Responses are pretty much what I expected. much appreciated. Right now I'm at 7,900 miles and 20% on the MM. I wouldn't mind doing 5k OCIs but I hear that the MM gets out of sync if it's reset early. My 2013 Accord 2.4 Earth Dreams would run close to 9,500 miles before the MM reached 15% and that car has nearly 200k miles with my nephew and following the MM, or a little past 0%. With my Ridgeline and the "transfer case" and rear diff being part of the MM, I'm wondering how to keep those items on track if I change the oil at 5k miles.

On our Acura I can reset individual service items such as an oil and filter change. All other services stay on track. Can you check to see if your Ridgeline is the same.
 
but I hear that the MM gets out of sync if it's reset early
Never heard that before
My 2013 Accord 2.4 Earth Dreams would run close to 9,500 miles before the MM reached 15% and that car has nearly 200k miles
I always advise people to do what they want to do when it comes to intervals, oil choices, filters, etc and don't tell others. Someone will criticize it. So my advice is, keep doing what you're doing - clearly it works.
With my Ridgeline and the "transfer case" and rear diff being part of the MM, I'm wondering how to keep those items on track if I change the oil at 5k miles.
If you choose to change the oil early, simply don't reset the MM. Just keep track of oil changes yourself and use the MM for other services. Or, the BITOG way is 100% ignore the MM and change the transfer case and differential fluid on your own set schedule as well.
 
Responses are pretty much what I expected. much appreciated. Right now I'm at 7,900 miles and 20% on the MM. I wouldn't mind doing 5k OCIs but I hear that the MM gets out of sync if it's reset early. My 2013 Accord 2.4 Earth Dreams would run close to 9,500 miles before the MM reached 15% and that car has nearly 200k miles with my nephew and following the MM, or a little past 0%. With my Ridgeline and the "transfer case" and rear diff being part of the MM, I'm wondering how to keep those items on track if I change the oil at 5k miles.
I do 5000 mile oil changes on my 2019 Honda Pilot and can also reset just that Maintenance Minder Code or any other code individually if there are more than one showing. My oil percentage remaining has always been right around 50% with the 5000 mile oil changes.

Within the past two months I had the oil, oil filter, tire rotation, and brake fluid exchange codes all come up in the MM. Over a period of about three weeks I was able to do each service separately at different times and reset each code individually.

If you can't reset just one code then do the oil change, keep the MM code for the oil without resetting it and then just reset it when it shows an oil change is due. Pretty easy to keep track of 5000 mile oil changes without using the MM for that service.
 
On our Acura I can reset individual service items such as an oil and filter change. All other services stay on track. Can you check to see if your Ridgeline is the same.

and can also reset just that Maintenance Minder Code or any other code individually if there are more than one showing.
This must be something new with Hondas. I knew that Honda techs could do this with their in-house software so they must have made it available to owners too.
 
I have a 2024 Ridgeline that is about due for its first oil change. Since this engine is now DI, I'm debating on what oil would be best to run. In the past, I would have just went with M1 AFE. I'd prefer something I can get locally (Walmart) or quick shipped in 2-ish days. I'd really like to find something in a 6qt box/container, but those are few and far between so I'd need something I can buy in 5qt and 1qt from the same retailer. At the end of the day, any oil meeting Honda's specs should be more than fine, but I'm not opposed to spending a few more bucks for a better oil. Anyone running a SOHC DI J-Series Honda? What's you oil of choice?
M1 ESP
 
If I recall correctly there were some other changes for the '24 and maybe '23. One of them was that the VCM disabling places don't have software for that yet.

Some of the answers will also depend on your usage. All around town short trip, all highway, mix, towing, off road etc.

The only way you will really know is after break-in do a UOA. Wife's '19 Pilot sees a LOT of short trip, less than 2 miles each way, oil not getting more than slightly warm. I did a UOA with I think it was PP 0W-20 at about 8k miles. I had fuel dilution and higher wear metals.

I now have 5W-30 PP Euro-L in it and will do 5k changes like others suggest. I have not done a UOA with that yet. I also will wait until MM says to change it but in my book I track the miles for OCI. I also set my trip B when I do the oil change, when it gets to 5k, time to change. Many other things linked in the MM that I don't want to throw off.

You really can't go wrong with any of the SP rated oils in whichever keeps you happy. While under warranty (and normally) keep receipts and document the changes. The manual probably just says 0W-20 but many discussions here with thin/thick/CAFE etc. I prefer to go with something listed as better MOFT and better HTHS. I also have in my fleet a Hyundai, a Kia, a Jeep (with motor that got replaced for oil issues) so bumping to better oils a bit thicker is my choice.

If you didn't consider getting the extended HondaCare from Saccucci Honda or Hyannis Honda. Much cheaper than most local dealers unless they feel like matching. Mine wanted almost 2k more for an aftermarket version, not factory Honda, no thanks.

The only real way to get rid of fuel dilution issues that I know of is to change it earlier. Long drives help but if short tripped just get it out. The '21 Tucson is on a 6 month, 3k schedule. The 12 month 8k semi-syn oil prior was DISGUSTING and smelled of raw fuel.
 
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