Patman
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It would most likely void the warranty. Best to stick with the 5w20 for at least the first few oil changes.
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Patman
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I bet the 0w20 doesn't come to Canada right away though, we always end up getting stuff much later.
How do you figure it won't void his warranty to run 0w30 though? I thought Honda was very strict about using 5w20/0w20 ONLY with no exceptions?
How do you figure it won't void his warranty to run 0w30 though? I thought Honda was very strict about using 5w20/0w20 ONLY with no exceptions?
For the warranty to even become an issue, the engine would have to suffer a failure of some sort and a warranty claim would have to be made. The burden would be on Honda to show that the problem was oil related, and they would further have the burden of proving that the specific oil used at the time of the problem was the proximate cause of the failure. All this would be predicated on them establishing that the oil wasn't actually 5w20. Once they've done all that, then and only then would the warranty be void.
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Then I'd definitely give a big thumbs up to the Castrol 0w30!
I really like the sounds of this oil (if you guys hadn't noticed!) I just hope they don't take it away from us. It would be nice to see more European oils like this make it over here.
It'll be very interesting to see if this stuff thins out at all on the 6k interval I've got planned for it in my sister's 99 Civic. If her first analysis looks good, I plan on pushing the oil a lot further than 6k on the next interval. Let's see how good that BMW long life spec really is!
I really like the sounds of this oil (if you guys hadn't noticed!) I just hope they don't take it away from us. It would be nice to see more European oils like this make it over here.
It'll be very interesting to see if this stuff thins out at all on the 6k interval I've got planned for it in my sister's 99 Civic. If her first analysis looks good, I plan on pushing the oil a lot further than 6k on the next interval. Let's see how good that BMW long life spec really is!
Rick the reason people are saying "no" to the Syntec because most likely you are referring to the black bottle, made in Canada stuff which afaik is a Group III synthetic, not a group IV. Since the cost is similar between the two I'd use Mobil 1. If you can buy the new bottle design Syntec that is made in Germany then you are getting a group IV synthetic and your moneys worth. Imo.
What does the new bottle look like? Is it silver like the European bottles?quote:
Originally posted by Quick_lude:
Rick the reason people are saying "no" to the Syntec because most likely you are referring to the black bottle, made in Canada stuff which afaik is a Group III synthetic, not a group IV. Since the cost is similar between the two I'd use Mobil 1. If you can buy the new bottle design Syntec that is made in Germany then you are getting a group IV synthetic and your moneys worth. Imo.
Tooslick, I have to give your credit (seriously) for recommending other brands like you do. Your not a typical sales rep. thats for sure. You really go out of your way to recommend the best choice for the individual. Why can't all sales reps. be that way??
My .02c worth...
Castrol syntec is in the same boat as Fram Fitlers.....
...nuff said
Castrol syntec is in the same boat as Fram Fitlers.....
...nuff said
my Honda manual says you can use 5w-30 oil if needed should 5w-20 not be available, but they recommend going back to 5w-20. This is for a 2002 Honda Civic SiR. My car has never seen 5w-20 since the factory fill was drained, strictly 5w-30 for me. I actually came across one person that said our cams would wear out in no time by using 5w-30 instead of 5w-20 oil, its a crazy world we live in !
LOL I seriously doubt that using the German syntec 0W-30 is going to cause more then normal wear.
I have come to conclustion that from everything that I have heard that the German syntec is going to be just fine and will not cause any exesive wear considering the quality of this oil.
Thanks All.
I have come to conclustion that from everything that I have heard that the German syntec is going to be just fine and will not cause any exesive wear considering the quality of this oil.
Thanks All.
If you're talking about the "Made in USA" Syntec, I agree 100%. The German 0w30 is something else altogether. Read the thread on that stuff and look at the specs. This is one impressive looking oil.quote:
Originally posted by 2K2AcuraTL:
My .02c worth...
Castrol syntec is in the same boat as Fram Fitlers.....
...nuff said
Patman
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Nope, same black bottle, but it just has the new labels on it. The 0w30 part is in red instead of yellow.
Fair enough.. I'll have to keep an eye open for this oil then...(wonder if its available Canada..??)quote:
Originally posted by G-Man II:
If you're talking about the "Made in USA" Syntec, I agree 100%. The German 0w30 is something else altogether. Read the thread on that stuff and look at the specs. This is one impressive looking oil.quote:
Originally posted by 2K2AcuraTL:
My .02c worth...
Castrol syntec is in the same boat as Fram Fitlers.....
...nuff said
Patman
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So far this oil is ONLY in Canada, not in the US. Of course it's in Europe too.
Look for it with the new Syntec label, and the 0w30 is in red instead of yellow. It says made in Germany on the back. Walmart is the only place I've seen it so far.
Look for it with the new Syntec label, and the 0w30 is in red instead of yellow. It says made in Germany on the back. Walmart is the only place I've seen it so far.
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