It seems as if Mr. Ghosn is a popular guy in Detroit these days.... http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/23/business/23cnd-ford.html?ei=5090&en=35d6782e589edeb1&ex=1313985600&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=print
quote:If i were to buy a new car, the mazda 3 would be my first choice. Gonna test drive one in a few months when the temps out here in AZ come down to comfortable level to stay outside for extended periods.
Originally posted by 9296D21B14: MC5W20. I earnestly apologize if my forum name has contributed in any way to your feelings toward Nissan. You may be pleased to know that the oil dipstick on my new Mazda3 proudly states FoMoCo.
quote:While I can't blame you for how you feel, but this is just stupidity on your part. Your argument is deeply flawed and you are just guessing at what my problem is with these companies, you are way off base. I can take your words and use them against you if you wanted to debate this over a beer. You have a simple mind and only see things as they have been told to you. When you learn to think independantly and can form your own thoughts - then and only then - will you see the folly of your ways.
Originally posted by SSQ: I hope you arn't hating companies like Nissan and Toyota because they are the outsiders selling cars in the US, eating away market shares of domestic automakers. I understand a lot of people in america buying domestic, thinking that they are supporting the economy of US and helping those companies stay afloat. You really think it's Nissan and Toyota to blame? In the 80s and mostly 90s, Ford and GM did a good job of ruining their own reputation. That in turn, drove consumers to companies offering them what they seek. Although a lot has changed today, the damage has been done, but the american automakers has found the perfect solution, RUN! Sure, it'll make your cars cheaper, and cheaper, and cheaper.... but do they really have to? While Ford and GM is busy moving to Mexico, China, Vietnam, and anywhere but US, cutting thousands of US jobs, Toyota, Honda, Nissan, now even Hyundai, has moved into the US, providing jobs to the americans whom are getting abandoned by Ford and GM. While Ford and GM are struggling because their V8s aren't competitive in the modern age anymore, Toyota provides Ford with hybrid technology, and GM with cars like Vibe. Honda provides technology to GM to build cars like VUE. This is all happening while GM and Ford are moving out of US to make cars in foriegn countries, and shipping them back into the US to compete against cars made in the US, by Americans workers and engineers, paid by a company who doens't really have to be here. At the same time when these companies are trying to help, Ford and GM continues to focus on marketing, politics, and offering their legendary V8s to a America whose gas price has went over 3 dollars a gallon. A few years ago, Toyota helped them by showing them exactly how they make cars, even set up a plant in CA to teach their engineers and managers industrial/manufacturing concepts like lean and tqm. This is wayyyyyy more than toyota's business. My point is, hate on, buy domestic and support the Mexican, Chinese, Vietnamese economy, and provide GM and Ford with more funding to spend on moving OUT of US.