Newest grade of Magnatec in Germany is 5w30

[G-MAN]

The newest grade of Castrol Magnatec in Germany is 5w30 and it meets BMW LL04 specs:

Castrol Germany Magnatec 5w30

NB: Castrol GTX Magnatec is marketed in the US and Canada as GTX Startup.

 

[bmwtechguy]

Is this primarily a Group III oil with some esters or other synthetic polar molecule characteristics?

 

[BrianWC]

I think group II with...etc.. We just had a thread on this.

 

[G-MAN]

It's Group III/V in Europe, and given the price in the US I'd say it's Group III/V here as well.

 

[Auto-Union]

Hey, there's an Import Oils Forum ya know!

 

[G-MAN]

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Originally posted by Auto-Union:
Hey, there's an Import Oils Forum ya know!

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Whoops!

 

[Shannow]

Downunder, we've got the mass marketted 10W-40, which is a mineral plus their UMA, a 10W-30 "workshop oil", which they market as a "semi synthetic", and their 5W-40 "Full synthetic", which has a pour point of minus 36C (18 degrees higher than D-1), leading me to think that it's prolly a GrIII with their UMA.

 

[G-MAN]

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Originally posted by Shannow:
Downunder, we've got the mass marketted 10W-40, which is a mineral plus their UMA,

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UMA?

 

[Shannow]

Castrol's patented UMA - "Unique Molecular Attraction".

Downunder, you've got to have lots of TLAs associated with your product.

 

[G-MAN]

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Originally posted by Shannow:
Castrol's patented UMA - "Unique Molecular Attraction".

Downunder, you've got to have lots of TLAs associated with your product.

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Gotcha. GTX Startup, Syntec Blend, and Syntec are the only oils in the US where the advertising mentions anything about UMA or some derivation thereof.

 

[AndyH]

Nice...ACEA A3 rated, 12.1 cSt @ 100°C.

More specs:
API SL/CF
ACEA A3/B3/B4
MB 229.31
VW 502 00/505 00
BMW Longlife-04

My guess is we won't see this oil in the U.S., but I'd love to be proven wrong.

 

[Mr Nice]

Is this oil the same as the US version of Start Up ??

 

[G-MAN]

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Originally posted by LT4 Vette:
Is this oil the same as the US version of Start Up ??

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I'm sure the basic formula is the same, but our 5w30 couldn't meet A3. It's too thin.

 

[pbm]

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Originally posted by G-Man II:
It's Group III/V in Europe, and given the price in the US I'd say it's Group III/V here as well.

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G-man: Isn't Start-Up under $3.00 a qt. If so it seems like a good price for a Gr.III/V oil especially when compared to Castrols own Syntec.

 

[G-MAN]

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Originally posted by pbm:

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Originally posted by G-Man II:
It's Group III/V in Europe, and given the price in the US I'd say it's Group III/V here as well.

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G-man: Isn't Start-Up under $3.00 a qt. If so it seems like a good price for a Gr.III/V oil especially when compared to Castrols own Syntec.

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Not around here. In fact, before my Wal-Mart stopped carrying it, the GTX Startup was more expensive than Syntec Blend.

 

[NewGuy]

I just put Castrol Start-Up 5W30 in my car. I was surprised how clear the oil was when it came out of the container. I am going to use it for a few OCIs. The problem is that it has gotten much harder to find these days. An oil using Group II/V sounds like a good combo to me.

 

[pbm]

G-man: A local chain in my area (Strauss Auto) is currently selling Start-Up for $2.39 (while supplies last- as they will not be carrying it anymore). Do you know what the cSt@100C* for the 5w30 is (is it a thick or thin 30 wt.) I might pick some up even though I need more oil like a hole in the head. Is it really a Gr.lll/Gr.lV blend?

 

[GMorg]

pbm cst@100C = 12.0

http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/b...ts/downloads/p,q/pds_gtx_high_mileage_usa.pdf

 

[GMorg]

Sorry dude, 12.0 was for high mileage. Start-up is only 10.3.


http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/b...assets/downloads/p,q/pds_gtx_start_up_usa.pdf

 

[G-MAN]

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Originally posted by pbm:
Is it really a Gr.lll/Gr.lV blend?

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No, it's either a Group II/Group V blend or a Group III/Group V blend. No Group IV (PAO).