I'd name it Smokey the Bear and keep driving it.
Newer BMW burning oil...
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Originally Posted by double vanos
I'd name it Smokey the Bear and keep driving it.
Yep. Some HDD oil and move on.
I'd name it Smokey the Bear and keep driving it.
Yep. Some HDD oil and move on.
In the seventies I would see tons of exotics puffing blue... say, after idling at a light... then at start-up to go. Alfa's ALWAYS did this. Certainly, Lambo's and Ferrari's. They were OHC or DOHC engines and often it was the valve stem seals. Having said this we are SO far removed from that time/era in terms of engine designs, assembly clearances, oil quality, unleaded fuels (many less combustion chamber / other deposits sticking rings), and 'way closer to stoichiometric air/fuel (with fuel inj.). But I too have heard that certain years of BMW V8's had oil consumption issues...
So what have we learned? A nearly 10 year old car with who knows how many miles, that may or may not have been maintained, can burn oil.
I know that back in my consumer car repair days, I saw far newer cars from all makes, with low miles, that needed a new engine. Why? because they had NEVER been maintained.
Bottom line: Buy what you want, and maintain it.
I know that back in my consumer car repair days, I saw far newer cars from all makes, with low miles, that needed a new engine. Why? because they had NEVER been maintained.
Bottom line: Buy what you want, and maintain it.
Originally Posted by M1256
I'm not surprised, some BMW V8 valve stem seals have been a known problem for a while.
Do you own a BMW? Better carry a case of oil in your trunk
According to Consumer Reports, the BMW 5 Series V8 engines are 27 times more likely to burn excessive oil. What other models from BMW top the list?
Yep, Valve Stem seals. Common with that family of BMW V8's.
I'm not surprised, some BMW V8 valve stem seals have been a known problem for a while.
Do you own a BMW? Better carry a case of oil in your trunk
According to Consumer Reports, the BMW 5 Series V8 engines are 27 times more likely to burn excessive oil. What other models from BMW top the list?
Yep, Valve Stem seals. Common with that family of BMW V8's.
Originally Posted by MCompact
Originally Posted by Mr Nice
Oil overfilled or this car didn't have regular oil changes.
15K mile oil change interval are crazy.
Tell me about it; the M54 in my son's E90 is at 150k miles on a 15K mile OCI. No issues but I'm sure it will spontaneously explode at any time.
E90 would be an N52.
Originally Posted by Mr Nice
Oil overfilled or this car didn't have regular oil changes.
15K mile oil change interval are crazy.
Tell me about it; the M54 in my son's E90 is at 150k miles on a 15K mile OCI. No issues but I'm sure it will spontaneously explode at any time.
E90 would be an N52.
Originally Posted by JHZR2
Do we know its not just a ton of moisture in the exhaust system from cars often sitting for extended periods these days???
That's definitely not water. I've actually seen that on a few V8 X5s around here.
Do we know its not just a ton of moisture in the exhaust system from cars often sitting for extended periods these days???
That's definitely not water. I've actually seen that on a few V8 X5s around here.
Originally Posted by jeepman3071
Originally Posted by MCompact
Originally Posted by MCompact
Mr Nice said:Oil overfilled or this car didn't have regular oil changes.
15K mile oil change interval are crazy.[/quote
Tell me about it; the M54 in my son's E90 is at 150k miles on a 15K mile OCI. No issues but I'm sure it will spontaneously explode at any time.
E90 would be an N52.
I don't know why I did that; I guess I was thinking about my E83 X3. Regardless, both engines ran past 150K miles with oil consumption along the lines of a quart every 10K miles, and by that time the new/different car itch becomes chronic.
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I drove up North today, an almost brand new Ford Explorer punched it up the hills and was blowing out black smoke, you could tell every time it shifted too.
Also a mostly new Kia Soul.
Also a mostly new Kia Soul.
Originally Posted by edyvw
IDK, my most unreliable vehicle was Toyota Land Cruiser, and I had numerous BMW's.
Anything that goes wrong on a Land Cruiser is called "maintenance."
IDK, my most unreliable vehicle was Toyota Land Cruiser, and I had numerous BMW's.
Anything that goes wrong on a Land Cruiser is called "maintenance."
Originally Posted by Nick1994
I drove up North today, an almost brand new Ford Explorer punched it up the hills and was blowing out black smoke, you could tell every time it shifted too.
Also a mostly new Kia Soul.
At wide open throttle, many (most? all?) cars go into open loop which is why you see the puff of black smoke.
I drove up North today, an almost brand new Ford Explorer punched it up the hills and was blowing out black smoke, you could tell every time it shifted too.
Also a mostly new Kia Soul.
At wide open throttle, many (most? all?) cars go into open loop which is why you see the puff of black smoke.
Originally Posted by 01rangerxl
Originally Posted by edyvw
IDK, my most unreliable vehicle was Toyota Land Cruiser, and I had numerous BMW's.
Anything that goes wrong on a Land Cruiser is called "maintenance."
That is general rule about any Toyota.
Originally Posted by edyvw
IDK, my most unreliable vehicle was Toyota Land Cruiser, and I had numerous BMW's.
Anything that goes wrong on a Land Cruiser is called "maintenance."
That is general rule about any Toyota.
Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by 01rangerxl
Originally Posted by edyvw
IDK, my most unreliable vehicle was Toyota Land Cruiser, and I had numerous BMW's.
Anything that goes wrong on a Land Cruiser is called "maintenance."
That is general rule about any Toyota.
Funny, that seems to be the rule about any parts needing to be replaced on a German car also. "That's a routine repair and normal".
Originally Posted by 01rangerxl
Originally Posted by edyvw
IDK, my most unreliable vehicle was Toyota Land Cruiser, and I had numerous BMW's.
Anything that goes wrong on a Land Cruiser is called "maintenance."
That is general rule about any Toyota.
Funny, that seems to be the rule about any parts needing to be replaced on a German car also. "That's a routine repair and normal".
Originally Posted by supton
Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by 01rangerxl
Originally Posted by edyvw
IDK, my most unreliable vehicle was Toyota Land Cruiser, and I had numerous BMW's.
Anything that goes wrong on a Land Cruiser is called "maintenance."
That is general rule about any Toyota.
Funny, that seems to be the rule about any parts needing to be replaced on a German car also. "That's a routine repair and normal".
IDK, I only know that in Toyota you can find BMW engine, and not other way around. I think there is a reason for that.
Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by 01rangerxl
Originally Posted by edyvw
IDK, my most unreliable vehicle was Toyota Land Cruiser, and I had numerous BMW's.
Anything that goes wrong on a Land Cruiser is called "maintenance."
That is general rule about any Toyota.
Funny, that seems to be the rule about any parts needing to be replaced on a German car also. "That's a routine repair and normal".
IDK, I only know that in Toyota you can find BMW engine, and not other way around. I think there is a reason for that.
^ Strange and ironic, indeed.
Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by gregk24
Maybe it was abused, maybe this is a design flaw. Either way I was surprised to see this while I was out driving yesterday...
550i burning oil
N63 engine. Valve stem seals, bad turbo coolant and oil lines.
The problem is architecture of an engine and turbos sitting in V bay. Engines runs extremely hot, and normal coolant temperature is 110c. It is to improve efficiency. It is ballistic missile of an engine and still returns decent mpg. But penalty is in issues around valve stems and turbo lines.
BMW had customer care package for owners of N63 and S63 (M version) where they covered replacement of these parts on BMW dime regardless of warranty. Now, whether this owner did it or not is in the air.
In 2012 BMW introduced N63TU and S63TU (technical update) where they redesigned bunch of these problematic parts. These engines are still in use, and did not hear them having issues anymore.
^^ Truth.
Originally Posted by gregk24
Maybe it was abused, maybe this is a design flaw. Either way I was surprised to see this while I was out driving yesterday...
550i burning oil
N63 engine. Valve stem seals, bad turbo coolant and oil lines.
The problem is architecture of an engine and turbos sitting in V bay. Engines runs extremely hot, and normal coolant temperature is 110c. It is to improve efficiency. It is ballistic missile of an engine and still returns decent mpg. But penalty is in issues around valve stems and turbo lines.
BMW had customer care package for owners of N63 and S63 (M version) where they covered replacement of these parts on BMW dime regardless of warranty. Now, whether this owner did it or not is in the air.
In 2012 BMW introduced N63TU and S63TU (technical update) where they redesigned bunch of these problematic parts. These engines are still in use, and did not hear them having issues anymore.
^^ Truth.
Originally Posted by john_pifer
^ Strange and ironic, indeed.
There is nothing strange. Toyota is awful making anything complex that is not hybrid. Their diesels are absolute POS, and that is where they source BMW engines. They ventured alone into small diesel market and hit ground on landing really hard.
They sourced now complete vehicle for new Supra, bcs. they lost that know-how long time ago.
^ Strange and ironic, indeed.
There is nothing strange. Toyota is awful making anything complex that is not hybrid. Their diesels are absolute POS, and that is where they source BMW engines. They ventured alone into small diesel market and hit ground on landing really hard.
They sourced now complete vehicle for new Supra, bcs. they lost that know-how long time ago.
