Not only Tundra. They are grenading in Sequoia too. They initially claimed it is only non-hyrbid.
I had to replace my 2020 RAV4’s rear shocks as well but at 105K miles which isn’t unexpected. Total cost was around $80 for Japanese made KYBs. I’ve never heard of shocks going bad a 8K, sounds like a bad batch. I did my front struts as well at the same time for an additional $150 just to have match things up. While the rear shocks were 100% shot, the front struts still had some life left to them.
Impressed w your writing...
Their fit and finish were not anything special before. My Sequoia is on par VW from 1994. But, it holds and I don't expect anything more from a vehicle that big that was $45,000 when new. However, to pay $80,000 for something assembled like my 1988 Opel Ascona, is absolutely insane. It is like they took that mindset that was present in American companies, which led them to bankruptcy: "whatever we sell, people will just buy it." It works for some time, but things catch up with you.
It is truly a shame. A lot of younger folks have no idea. The American + Canadian "Big Three" were at one time the makers of some really nice , quality vehicles. From the mid to late 1950s well into the late 1960s , Ford / GM and Chrysler put together some really nice rides. If one does not remember or have never seen any of them, go to some local car shows. Yes, most of the vehicles there will be "restored" to like new condition. But one can still get a good idea by looking at the quality the interiors were made with. You will really see something if you stumble across what are known as "survivor-grade" classics that still have the original factory paint and interiors. It seems like sometime around 1972 the management of those three companies lost total track of what got them the success they were enjoying. The Big Three made some of the most horrible /cheap designed vehicles ever from about 1973 until sometime in the late 80s. They finally woke up and after having their clocks cleaned by all the high quality foreign cars that people wanted and were buying up all across North America. They had little choice but to start to return to using quality interior materials and stepping up overall design qualities in a desperate attempt (they are still in it now) to catch up to the imports. We sure need to hope the Japanese and other auto makers do not attempt to copy the poor/cheap take it or leave it stuff the Big Three tried to push off on its customer bases... They are still paying for that blunder. Sad part is regardless the quality, the cost of owning the stuff keeps going in one direction .... up up up.
I was on a project 2 summers ago where my employer spent 3 mil on a system sold to us by a German co. The really amazing thing, I was on a call I so mentioned the system doesn’t work. The vendor said you are out of hours on this project. Someone on our side said to my co, who’s responsible for this product, who agreed to implement it? Crickets, and nothing more ever became of it to this day. The site operates without the system we paid for.
In the beginning they only claimed “machining debris “ affected strictly ICE versions.
Oh yes. We are going to be driving several different brands of SUVs when the wife gets back from her trip at end of the month. She is flying off to visit family in Tennessee first. I may do some on my own test drives while she is out of town. We are even going to look at Mazda and some others. Can't believe I am saying this one... she even wants to drive a Chevy Trax since she has been seeing them around. As unhappy as I have been with the way I feel Honda has been headed , we will probably even test drive a Honda CRV Hybrid. Our youngest son's in-laws have been driving Mazda SUVs for many years. They have a fairly new one right now I will be checking out soon.
True.....
That late 90’s, mid 2000’s does seem to be when engineers ran buck wild and bean counters were ok with it. We bought a 10 yo LS430 in 2016 and it turned into a self fulfilled prophecy. Virtually nothing broke in the last 8.5 years and the car will be 20 in 2 mos. And what did break is exactly like every other car on the forum (cupholder, pass mirror not tilting correctly, etc).I don't think ANY manufacturer makes a good car nowadays. Case in point: My mom's 2024 Toyota Cross. From day 1 when it would rain, the pass floor mat will get wet. Even in a car wash. She took it back 5X. " We can't find where where the water is coming from, but we can see the mat is wet. Bring it back another time " Yeah, their gonna run the warranty out, and that will be that. Honestly, I don't trust any manufacturer anymore. That's why I drive a 13' CRV, 03' Solara, 06' Camry. They'll run forever with little maintenance. Toyota WAS my last hope, but they are going in the toilet now. I'm fortunate enough to have had my enjoyment with late 60's- early 70's cars. Memories is all I have to offer you poor souls looking for a good car. My mom is devastated. I told her I'll drill the floor pan, and sell the car. Meanwhile, I'm driving her old 03' Toyota Solara. It just won't die. It's a shame
Very GOOD advice.
To be fair, that's a dealer problem. Dealer is failing to find the problem.
Cost cutting and all. But trying to keep costs down. At the risk of letting my inner Toyota fanboi out, this is like amongst the cheapest in class, no? Have to have expectations that match the cost. Now if you were talking about 4Runner or Sequoia, then yeah, you're right--but I think this is meant to be as cheap as possible.
