NEW Vehicle Advice / Recommendations: Anyone? Subaru or Toyota? What says the gang?

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NEW Vehicle (SUV) Advice / Recommendations: Anyone.... Subaru or Toyota?
A little help/info? What would you go with? Subaru or a Toyota? I know there are several BITOG people who own both.
About all I know about Subaru is that they use the "boxer" style engines.

We have bought Hondas ONLY since the 1990s. We are done finally done with Honda after over 30 years for a few reasons. Honda has made it very clear since about 2016 they no longer care about their long time customers. They have also been slipping a bit quality wise. (still rated #4 in the top ten according to consumers) Honda still will not admit the issues they are having with the tiny (diluter) GDI-Turbo engines they continue to make standard equipment in several models. We still own two Honda Accords. The last one we purchased , the 2018 Accord seems smaller (interior) with very uncomfortable front seats than the 2009 Accord that I still use mostly. Wife loves her 2018. It runs and drives great , but has lots of wind noise on highway and always has that gas in the oil. Also IMHO way too tiny oil sump they build them with. We are looking/need something for two people with bad necks/backs etc... Easy to get in and out etc....

I truly value the opinions of the majority of the people here @ BITOG....
Wife is in need of a new ride for work and for grandma duties. We need something that we can get in and out of easily for two people with many back and neck issues. Wife will use it to do short 12 miles round trip work drives 5 days a week. Also some 120 mile round trips to visit and to take the grandkids places. We also may start to attempt some longer road trips again to visit other son and family, if we find it comfortable enough to start doing those again.
So, I have ridden with my oldest son in his 2019 Toyota Rav4 that he raves about. I was very impressed with it over all. The seats and the highway ride in it was really comfortable. I also found it to ride really well and very quiet on the interstates. I have zero experience with Subaru but have always been intrigued by them. I have never really heard anyone at all complain about owning or maintaining either Toyotas or the Subaru SUVs.
We are looking at the Toyota Rav4 or the Subaru Forrester models. We find they seem not too big and not too small compared to others. Plan to do some test drives over the next few weeks. Any comments / experience will be appreciated.
 
Looks like you need comfort more than ever. Test drive everything and see what has the comfiest seats and suspension first. I think the subaru legacy is known to be comfy and maybe the hyundai sonata but that one just got updated but I like the looks of it. But test drive many things. Pretty much test drive every mid size sedan and small to midsize suv on the dealer lot. Try both the cloth and leather seat versions. Cloth seats tend to be a more comfy from experience.
 
I recently traded in a 2021 Honda Passport Elite for a 2025 Subaru Outback Wilderness and I could not be happier with my decision aside from the fact that I missed the ventilated seats from the Honda. Literally everything about the Subaru is better aside from losing a little bit of cargo space that I never made use of anyway. The big things that I wanted to get back into a Subaru to have were the eyesight safety system, better fuel economy, more comfortable ride, and lower maintenance costs.

One thing of note that Subaru offers that Toyota does not is auto dimming exterior mirrors, side mirrors. I had this feature for the first time on a 2018 Outback I bought new and I never want to go without it again. My aforementioned Honda had this feature but to the best of my knowledge no Toyota vehicles or at least ones comparable to the Outback or Passport offer this feature so I scratched Toyota off my list of vehicles to consider.
 
>>>>We need something that we can get in and out of easily for two people with many back and neck issues.

Go to a Carmax lot (if you have one near) and sit in all the used versions of the Toyotas/Subarus that you are interested in. Chat can only help so much. at the Carmax lot, you'll have plenty of relaxed time to at least know which vehicles are the right side.

And yes to waiting to the new RAV4 to compare, but it kinda sounds like you will need a taller vehicle.

My vote would be for the Highlander if you're willing to look at bigger cars.
 
Get the one with the least amount of Technology because in just a few years and they will become unfixable.
That is a biggie for me. I hate the way every day seems to bring new technology that eliminates the ones we just are getting used to.

I had so much new technology shoved on me before I retired I have run from it ever since. I got so burned out having to keep learning all the new systems the company I worked for kept getting taken by.
Upper level managers kept retiring and then taking positions (consultant/sales) with those new companies. They would come back and talk our people into trashing our great/easy/workable systems and buy whatever the old managers they knew came around selling. I often wondered how much under the table money changed hands in all of that. It caused no end of frustration and extra hard work for no real value. I heard a lot of that was going on at the time. Yeah. I am certainly looking for the SUV we can find with the least amount of tech.
 
Toyota makes the best cars :)

Since you mention Honda the turbo problems, know that the HR-V is still non-turbo and not even DI either (will be getting DI for 2026), so if you can find a clearance 25 HRV, that should work.

If you're considering the Rav4, also consider the Corolla Cross. If you're lucky you might even find one in green :D
 
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Wife loves her Forester and one might be a good pick for you.
It is easy in and out and does have a soft ride.
Subaru reliability?
Well, our '09 Forester, bought 8/08 is still chugging along (with no HG replacement) and we've had no issues with our '17.
Accord?
Well, if you have a bad neck and back a Gen 10 or 11 Accord would not be the easiest thing to get in and out of.
Honda quality/durability?
I've been hearing for years about how Honda has gone downhill, but I didn't see this in our Gen 8 Accord and don't see it in our Gen 10 after 123K, and we've owned Honda cars going back nearly fifty years.
 
"Wife will use it to do short 12 miles round trip work drives 5 days a week."

My wife does a lot of short trips too. Therefore, I change oil every 5000 miles in her 4Runner instead of 10000 miles as recommended by the dealer. Refer to the definition of extreme operating conditions when you get your owners manual, which includes short trips, frequent stop and go, off-roading, etc. My wife occasionally drives over parking lot curbs, so I count that as off-roading :)
 
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Our 2019 RAV4 has had no real issues. I would buy another one.

I like the idea of a subie but every time I research one I get scared off.
Same here .... that is why I was seeking past owners thought about them too..
Really it is always a dice throw when we all buy things. With luck we get ones not made on a Friday or a Monday! :rolleyes:
 
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