New tire needed for 5-10K miles--how important is it to match?

[paulri]

Current set of tires is down to 5/32 inch. They are wearing fast, they are 80K tires Yokohama Avid Ascend, at only 18K miles.

One of them blew today, and we currently have a spare on it. Took it back to AT where we bought them, and the roadhazard warranty, and they said they could order another Yokohama, or put on another brand. I opted to match it with the current set.

It would only be for about 5K miles, 10K max, although I don't see how it could last 10K at the rate it is going. So would putting on another brand tire do any damage to the alignment in that time? I don't believe I've ever had alignment done, if it was done it was a good 100,000 miles ago, so I'd like to not have to go back. I don't know what else might be affected besides the alignment....

 

[SwampSurvivor]

As long as it's not AWD, it won't hurt anything to run mismatched tires.

 

[slacktide_bitog]

It will not be a problem at all

 

[CapriRacer]

In emergency maneuvers, vehicles tend to pivot around odd tires - and the more odd the tire, the stronger that tendency.

A new tire of the same make/ model is the least odd of the possibilities.

 

[racer12306]

I agree no much of an issue, assuming no AWD.

Which vehicle is destroying Avid Ascends?
I used to really like the Avid series, had multiple sets of TRZs and Ascends on different cars.

 

[AdmiralYoda]

I had a set of those on my wife's old Nissan Versa. Got plenty of miles out of them.

Were all 4 tires wearing poorly or just the fronts? Did you have them rotated regularly? I'll bet you were either close to the load limit of the tires and chewed them up or you have an alignment issue causing excessive wear...and it was masked by regular tire rotation.

 

[Rand]

I'd like a pair, or see if they can credit that replacement
and get 4 new tires.

Sometimes DT can go a little extra mile for you on these types of issues.

 

[paulri]

They only want to prorate if the tread is down to 4/32, and the guy measured them and said it is at 5/32 on all the tires. But I will ask when I call, if I can get some type of prorate. I'll only be paying $22 for installation on the Yokohama, for several thousand miles, which is probably a bit lower rate (per mile) than I'd be paying for a new set, although of course that is hard to calculate without knowing the prorate, and of course, which new set....

I think I'll call them and talk about options, and also, about an appointment tomorrow morning for a new tire that is mismatched.

I'd like a pair, or see if they can credit that replacement
and get 4 new tires.

Sometimes DT can go a little extra mile for you on these types of issues.

 

[paulri]

This model is FWD.

Every time I go there and buy new tires, they don't tell me that there is uneven wear.

This happens regardless of the tire. The previous set, Cooper CS5s, got 24K--on an 80K tire.

Because I have no clue, I'll ask you---would or could an alignment issue be causing excessive wear that has wear even across the treads?

I had a set of those on my wife's old Nissan Versa. Got plenty of miles out of them.

Were all 4 tires wearing poorly or just the fronts? Did you have them rotated regularly? I'll bet you were either close to the load limit of the tires and chewed them up or you have an alignment issue causing excessive wear...and it was masked by regular tire rotation.

 

[AdmiralYoda]

This model is FWD.

Every time I go there and buy new tires, they don't tell me that there is uneven wear.

This happens regardless of the tire. The previous set, Cooper CS5s, got 24K--on an 80K tire.

Because I have no clue, I'll ask you---would or could an alignment issue be causing excessive wear that has wear even across the treads?

A front alignment issue would cause excessive wear on the FRONT treads....100%. If you never got the tires rotated, the fronts would be bald and the rears would look great. If you do get the tires regularly rotated you might just eventually be wearing out all 4 tires from a bad front alignment.

And the tire place will be happy to keep selling you tires!

If not an alignment issue, minivan's are known for chewing through tires fast. They weigh alot and the tires are barely able to handle that load rating. You might want to consider going up a load range if it isn't an alignment issue.

 

[paulri]

There is a larger size that Toyota allows (OEM is 215-65-R16; but they also allow 225-60-R17), but I called AT once and I was told that I'd have to pay a lot of money to get new wheels or something like that--it wasn't a slam dunk where I come in and they just automatically install the larger size tires.

A front alignment issue would cause excessive wear on the FRONT treads....100%. If you never got the tires rotated, the fronts would be bald and the rears would look great. If you do get the tires regularly rotated you might just eventually be wearing out all 4 tires from a bad front alignment.

And the tire place will be happy to keep selling you tires!

If not an alignment issue, minivan's are known for chewing through tires fast. They weigh alot and the tires are barely able to handle that load rating. You might want to consider going up a load range if it isn't an alignment issue.

 

[paulri]

The Yokohamas I have now are SL. Are you talking about going up to XL?

A front alignment issue would cause excessive wear on the FRONT treads....100%. If you never got the tires rotated, the fronts would be bald and the rears would look great. If you do get the tires regularly rotated you might just eventually be wearing out all 4 tires from a bad front alignment.

And the tire place will be happy to keep selling you tires!

If not an alignment issue, minivan's are known for chewing through tires fast. They weigh alot and the tires are barely able to handle that load rating. You might want to consider going up a load range if it isn't an alignment issue.

 

[paulri]

Just called, and they won't prorate until they are down to 4/32. So looks like I'll just stick with one new tire on their dime, which stinks, because I was going to make a killing on the prorate. Oh well at least I have three left.

The tires were not that old---mid-2022 was the date of manufacture.

I'd like a pair, or see if they can credit that replacement
and get 4 new tires.

Sometimes DT can go a little extra mile for you on these types of issues.

 

[Rand]

Just called, and they won't prorate until they are down to 4/32. So looks like I'll just stick with one new tire on their dime, which stinks, because I was going to make a killing on the prorate. Oh well at least I have three left.

The tires were not that old---mid-2022 was the date of manufacture.

that's not the kind of thing you call for.

Sorta like calling home depot and asking if they have any 50$ clearance power washers left... not the right thing to do (employees would take them all behind the counter to buy later)

 

[IndyIan]

Just stick the new tire on one of the rear corners and burn down the others to 4/32, then get 3 new ones, and rotate them once in a while. Also measure the others yourself, part of them may already be at 4/32?
A new tire won't affect alignment at all, so its fine to run a full tread depth tire on one rear corner.
Its probably not a great idea to run a full depth tire and a nearly bald one on drive axle as it does work the diff a bit more, maybe not enough to matter, but I would play it safe, and just run the full depth one on the rear.

 

[paulri]

It is going on the rear axle, that's where the blowout was.

I'm not sure I'd save anything by buying only 3, typically the AT sales are for a set of 4, so I'll probably just go that route.

Just stick the new tire on one of the rear corners and burn down the others to 4/32, then get 3 new ones, and rotate them once in a while. Also measure the others yourself, part of them may already be at 4/32?
A new tire won't affect alignment at all, so its fine to run a full tread depth tire on one rear corner.
Its probably not a great idea to run a full depth tire and a nearly bald one on drive axle as it does work the diff a bit more, maybe not enough to matter, but I would play it safe, and just run the full depth one on the rear.

 

[barkingspider]

My GFs mother has 3 different brand tires on her 07 RX350 and it’s been like that for years w no issues, haha. For me, I prefer 4 same tires but have run GYs up front with Coopers on the rear All good

 

[Mainia]

Just stick the new tire on one of the rear corners and burn down the others to 4/32, then get 3 new ones, and rotate them once in a while. Also measure the others yourself, part of them may already be at 4/32?
A new tire won't affect alignment at all, so its fine to run a full tread depth tire on one rear corner.
Its probably not a great idea to run a full depth tire and a nearly bald one on drive axle as it does work the diff a bit more, maybe not enough to matter, but I would play it safe, and just run the full depth one on the rear.

I think they put new tires on the back by default now,( liability ) so in snow and heavy rain the rear doesn't come around. I had to push pretty hard to get them to put both new front Cross Climate 2's on the front when my daughter got a steel bar through the sidewall and I got that on road hazard and I choose to buy a new matching for the other side and keep the 5/32 one for a spare. If was me, I would run just the new one, I wanted her to have good front drive tires for this coming up winter.