Again car mfrs are losing their commonsense and logic if they believe they need to add more complex transmissions to be "competitive", people that buy Toyota want bulletproof reliability that is probably the most desired characteristic when a consumer buys that brand. Full electric transition? Not in the USA for many decades perhaps more than 70 years! Some car mfrs that are still in touch with reality admit that there just isn't a market for EVs, people do NOT want them, only a tiny dedicated market is interested. Unless consumers are FORCED by government they will refuse to buy them anytime soon.
Originally Posted by smc733
Time marches forward. I just exchanged my 2016 Sonata, which was showing signs of engine issues, for a 2017 Camry. Test drove a 17 and 18, liked the 18 but I wanted a 10-year car, plus the older one felt a bit more comfortable, sits up higher, and doesn't look as... different as the new one. Having said that, they can't stick in 6-speed land forever, they have to remain competitive. Scotty Kilmer might be a well respected mechanic, but he's no engineer. I bet Toyota sticks with this 8 speed for a decade or so until everyone begins full-electric transition, I'm sure most of the issues will be worked out in the next revision.