New GF6 Kendall 0W20 vs Amsoil OE 0w20

[JWB]

Here you go. Kendall GT1 Max dropped Ti and boosted Moly, Boron and Zinc

Only difference is Amsoil OE flash point is over 450.

 

[kstanf150]

To fuzzy to read

 

[aquariuscsm]

I wonder why such a low TBN on both?

 

[aquariuscsm]

To fuzzy to read

Click the picture and it will expand the image.

 

[JWB]

I wonder why such a low TBN on both?

I wondered as well. Both seem to be about 1.5 low.

 

[wpod]

Not a whole lot of difference with the add packs.

 

[Jetronic]

as in no difference...

 

[kschachn]

And considering the difficulty in measuring flash point (and the irrelevance to ICE operation) that could be either within measurement tolerance or an aberration. Either way it's not significant to the oil's performance properties.

 

[RazorsEdge]

Not a whole lot of difference with the add packs.

Like someone said the other day on here that sounded completely ignorant :

" Looks alot like Supertech,only double the price "

You only learn so much from an oil from an VOA & UOA.

 

[wpod]

Like someone said the other day on here that sounded completely ignorant :

" Looks alot like Supertech,only double the price "

You only learn so much from an oil from an VOA & UOA.

I wonder about the base oil blends and If I an informed enough to figure out the differences.

 

[RazorsEdge]

I wonder about the base oil blends and If I an informed enough to figure out the differences.

Kendall and Amsoil OE have been group 3 blends for years.

 

[The_Captain]

Thanks for sharing!

 

[Eddie]

Good information. Thank you

 

[smokey_2020]

My understanding was that 100% Synthetic Oils cannot be Group 3, only Full Synthetic can be Group 3. Amsoil OE is 100% Synthetic. I am not defending Amsoil, but always wanted to understand if 100% Synthetic can be assigned to Group 3 oils or not.

Kendall and Amsoil OE have been group 3 blends for years.

 

[RazorsEdge]

My understanding was that 100% Synthetic Oils cannot be Group 3, only Full Synthetic can be Group 3. Amsoil OE is 100% Synthetic. I am not defending Amsoil, but always wanted to understand if 100% Synthetic can be assigned to Group 3 oils or not.

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You can ask Pablo on this very forum since you don't believe me.

 

[smokey_2020]

OK, even more reasons not to waste money on Amsoil OE and XL. I do not know Pablo but I trust this forum as source of knowledge. I learned about Full Synthetic vs. 100% Synthetic from here:
https://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topic/236176-practical-lubrication-filtration/

You can ask Pablo on this very forum since you don't believe me.

 

[kschachn]

My understanding was that 100% Synthetic Oils cannot be Group 3, only Full Synthetic can be Group 3. Amsoil OE is 100% Synthetic. I am not defending Amsoil, but always wanted to understand if 100% Synthetic can be assigned to Group 3 oils or not.

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Of course it “can”. Are you just making these posts to stir things up or what?

Your “understanding” is lacking and seems to have a purpose other than actual understanding.

 

[smokey_2020]

I was just trying to learn because I read at some point (and I shared the link) that 100% synthetic cannot be Group 3, I came here for help and asked my questions. I do not understand why such a hostile receipt of my questions but OK.

 

[Jonas]

I was just trying to learn because I read at some point (and I shared the link) that 100% synthetic cannot be Group 3, I came here for help and asked my questions. I do not understand why such a hostile receipt of my questions but OK.

I think it's a good question. Amsoil's OE and XL just have "hydrogenated oil" (which could be any type of hydrotreated oil) on their SDS, but 1-decene homopolymer (which is PAO) listed for their signature series. I don't really know if the "100% synthetic" claim is legit or what it even means for the former oils. BTW, Pablo is an Amsoil expert here. He'd know much more about it than I.