new european mobil 1 5W40

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yannis, Thanks for the heads-up. Looks like it's heavier than M1 0W-40 and lighter than M1 T&SUV 5W-40. Will be interesting to see if it comes to the North American market and if so, whether it supplements the exisiting line or replaces one of the above-mentioned oils. Cheers, Mark
 

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Looks interesting, but an HTHS of only 3.8 is kinda weak for an oil of 14.6 cst at 100c. For comparison, Amsoil 5w40 is 14.5 cst but has a higher HTHS of 4.2
 
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Patman (and others): I normally review the UAOs as they are posted and I've yet to sit down and really study them grouped by oil brand and weight. My question is: has a trend emerged from the UOAs whereby lower HTHS oils (<3.5?) and/or those with lower TBNs have consistently fared poorly in "real world driving," versus those with higher HTHS numbers?
 

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In high horsepower applications like the LS1 family of engines, the higher HTHS oils definitely show lower wear numbers. It's not as critical on a gently driven engine, although a lot of people who are using a 5w40 oil have a higher performance engine, so the HTHS number is obviously more critical to them.
 
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There is nothing new about European M1 5w-40. It is almost unknown and impossible to find in Germany, I can only get mine at a Danish supermaked "A-Z". I have had it in my Audi 80 1.6 for the last 29000 kms, but I am switching to Delvac 1. rekced, I haven't seen any VW503.01 approved 5w-40 yet.
 

yannis

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I telephoned the regional dealer in the nearby town and YES i can order it for 13 euros per litter .He didn't have it readly available (in stock) which of course wasn't a surprise for me. The Synt S costs a little cheaper and the delvac ...16 euros , ouch!! I can get a discount if i order a case..hmmm i 'll think about it. I have an other year before my stash runs out of oil.
 
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[freaknout] 16 Euro for 1 liter of Delvac 1? [freaknout] [freaknout] 13 Euro for 1 liter of M1 5w-40? [freaknout] Yannis, your dealer is crazy...his profit is at least 9 - 12 euro per liter. M1 5w-40 at discount in the Danish supermarked costs around 8.37 Euro/liter. Last time we bought Delvac 1 for our farm was in December, and we had to pay 5.23 Euro/liter at a local Esso/Mobil distributor. They said the the price will rise again in January, so I expect it to be around 5.50 euro/liter now. However, some years ago several other dealers charged more than 7 euro/liter. Our distributor offered me some M1 0w-40 at 8.12 Euro/liter in 2004, while M1 0w-30 and 5w-50 was around 11.80 euro/liter. It seems that I do not have to complain about prices. [I dont know] Regards
 
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