need help: What oil does Ford Australia recommend in the modular V8's?

[mracer]

I noticed FORD Australia sells the following vehicles with modular V8 engines: F-250 with 5.4L SOHC V8 Petrol Fairlane with 5.4L SOHC 3V V8 Falcon with 5.4L DOHC 4V V8 What oil does Ford Australia recommend in these modular V8's?

 

[DavoNF]

Don't know, but I'll find out. Stay tuned. Dave

 

[DavoNF]

Looks like 10W-30. I'll know for sure when everybody wakes up. It's 5.30 in the morning here, and all these Ford blokes like to sleep in. Dave.

 

[DavoNF]

I found one who was awake. It looks like 10W-30 is in the owners manual, but the dealer workshops seem to be pushing the Castrol R 0W-40, apparently with Ford's blessing. Other owners are using the Mobil syn 5W-50. The Castrol R comes in these flavours. 0W-40. 5W-30. 10W-60 and 25W-50. Dave [ May 18, 2004, 04:48 PM: Message edited by: DavoNF ]

 

[RF Overlord]

According to EssoMobil's Australian web site, Mobil 1 over there only comes in: 0W-40 10W-30 5W-50 15W-50 No 5W-30, no 5W-20, no 0W-20... So now the BIG question is whether the "Australian" Ford modular motors have different clearances than the "American" ones... I'm not sure if this applies to Ford, but the General Motors Gen III 5.7L engines they put in the Holdens are built in the US and shipped over, so I'll bet they're almost identical with the USA-spec engines...

 

[rgl]

I think maybe the Aussie Ford engines have tolerances measured in those old English Imperial measures, fidgets and gherkins. My no. 2 theory is that 5W20 oil swirls around in an anticlockwise manner in the Southern hemisphere and is thus totally unsuitable for Australian consumption. But CAFE would not have anything to do with this discrepancy.

 

[DavoNF]

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So now the BIG question is whether the "Australian" Ford modular motors have different clearances than the "American" ones...

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No, they are exactly the same, down to the last nut and bolt. AFAIK, they are all imported. As for the fidgets and gherkins, we have used metric measurements for the last 20 years or so. The Coriolis effect won't cut it either, some professor over here proved it depends on the size of the bath tub. Dave

 

[sprintman]

Engines are pulled from crates, modified re intake/cam/heads/rods etc depending on which kw output required and bolted in. Same clearances as every engine sold worldwide from anybody. Castrol R 0W40 is a Group III 12.9 cSt 3.6 HTHS oil FWIW.

 

[honus402]

2003 Crown Vic Sport 3/4 second knock after sitting for 8 hours 50 to 80 degrees. No knock below 50 degrees. Ford says knock is "normal". At 2000 miles, Motorcraft 5W-20 + FL820S 3/4 second knock after sitting for 8 hours 50 to 80 degrees. No knock below 50 degrees. At 5000 miles, Mobile 1 5W-30 + FL820S Louder 3/4 second to 1 second knock after sitting for 8 hours 50 to 80 degrees. No knock below 50 degrees. At 8000 miles, Motorcraft 5W-20 + FL820S 3/4 second knock after sitting for 8 hours 50 to 80 degrees. No knock below 50 degrees. At 11000 miles, Chevron Supreme + FL820S Absolutly no knock. So quiet you only hear the alternator and idler pullies. And get this, MPG got better by 1 mpg. I'm sticking with 10W-30 Chevron.

 

[DavoNF]

honus402, I think your motor was trying to tell you something. Dave

 

[jsharp]

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Originally posted by RF Overlord: According to EssoMobil's Australian web site, Mobil 1 over there only comes in: 0W-40 10W-30 5W-50 15W-50 No 5W-30, no 5W-20, no 0W-20... So now the BIG question is whether the "Australian" Ford modular motors have different clearances than the "American" ones... I'm not sure if this applies to Ford, but the General Motors Gen III 5.7L engines they put in the Holdens are built in the US and shipped over, so I'll bet they're almost identical with the USA-spec engines...

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I'm sure the clearances are identical. Those are design parameters that don't change with climate. It would make sense there are few 0W and 5W oils in Australia. It never gets cold there...

 

[G-MAN]

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Originally posted by sprintman: Castrol R 0W40 is a Group III 12.9 cSt 3.6 HTHS oil FWIW.

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It's a Group IV/V oil, not Group III.

 

[sprintman]

Ahh your right! I was thinking 5W30 which is a Group III which i'm currently using for RX rinse. I'll blame it on the flue which I've had for 3 weeks now and I'm not a happy camper.

 

[theguru]

PDS for Castrol R 0-40

 

[Losiho]

Yup, Castrol 0w40 and 10w60 are both Group 4, 5w30 is Group 3 and 20w50 is mineral.

 

[427Z06]

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Originally posted by honus402: 2003 Crown Vic Sport 3/4 second knock after sitting for 8 hours 50 to 80 degrees. No knock below 50 degrees. Ford says knock is "normal". At 2000 miles, Motorcraft 5W-20 + FL820S 3/4 second knock after sitting for 8 hours 50 to 80 degrees. No knock below 50 degrees. At 5000 miles, Mobile 1 5W-30 + FL820S Louder 3/4 second to 1 second knock after sitting for 8 hours 50 to 80 degrees. No knock below 50 degrees. At 8000 miles, Motorcraft 5W-20 + FL820S 3/4 second knock after sitting for 8 hours 50 to 80 degrees. No knock below 50 degrees. At 11000 miles, Chevron Supreme + FL820S Absolutly no knock. So quiet you only hear the alternator and idler pullies. And get this, MPG got better by 1 mpg. I'm sticking with 10W-30 Chevron.

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honus402, what engine is in that 2003 Crown Vic Sport? If what you listed above eludes to the fact that you changed the filter every OCI, I'd say you got one weird engine. Not bad, just weird. As an experiment, you might try M1 5w40 Truck and SUV oil with a new FL820S and see what that does.

 

[JustinH]

the crown vic has the 4.6 2v v8.

 

[Shannow]

As the guys have said previously, a 30 is specced, but the dealer uses 40. I picked up some M1 from the depot a few months ago. He stated that the Holden and Ford dealers buy M1 for their perforamnce engines.Holden buys 10W-30, Ford buys 0W-40. (just like the castrol spec of previous posts)

 

[sprintman]

And the Holdens are going through 10W30 like you wouldn't believe (ask anybody that owns one)

 

[Shannow]

And it's all "completely normal"....but not to the Aussies that are used to zip oil use between changes.