Multigrade Dino and Viscosity Index Improvers

[TallPaul]

I posted this at the end of a thread the other day, but have since added a few more oils to the data table and feel like it should be it's own thread. This is for dino oils only. "The higher the VI (viscosity index), the more multigraded the oil" (How to read a can of oil (Part 1), by John S. Evans B.Sc., WearCheck Africa). Here are some oils (Valvoline All Climate, Chevron Supreme, Exxon Superflow, Quaker State Peak Performance, Citgo Superguard, and Conoco Supreme) ordered by their VIs: 162 5w30 Valvoline 159 5w30 Quaker 159 5w30 Chevron 158 5w30 Conoco 158 5w30 Exxon 154 5w20 Citgo 154 5w30 Citgo 153 5w20 Exxon 151 5w20 Quaker 150 10w40 Conoco 148 5w20 Chevron 148 10w40 Quaker 148 10w40 Chevron 148 10w40 Valvoline 148 10w40 Citgo 147 10w40 Exxon 139 10w30 Quaker 137 10w30 Citgo 136 15w40 Valvolines 135 10w30 Chevron 135 10w30 Valvoline 135 10w30 Exxon 134 10w30 Conoco 125 20w50 Valvoline 125 20w50 Exxon 122 20w50 Chevron 121 20w50 Citgo 120 20w50 Quaker The blank lines are there to emphasize the bigger drops in VI as you go down the table. It is clear that the 5w30 is the most multigraded of these various grades (dosen't necessarily mean the most VIIs though), with the 5w20s following a close second. The 10w40w follow close behind the 5w20s. Then there is a big gap to the much less multigraded 10w30 and another big gap from that to the 20w50. I threw in the 15w40 although it is more like a heavy duty engine oil because it shows where 15w40 might fit, although I suspect with more data we would find the 15w40s would more likely be between 10w30 and 20w50. If the viscosity index improver additive levels are roughly comparable to the VI (I know part of that is the natural VI of the base oil, but all else equal...), then 10w30 is the way to go except when extreme cold dictates thinner oil. The idea of running 5w30 or 5w20 during hot summer weather appears absurd from this viewpoint. And the much-maligned 10w40 ("too much viscosity spread," "suffers permanent viscosity collapse," etc.) appears actually to be more stable than the ever-popular 5w oils. Even when you look at each of the oil brands above separately (removes some, but not all, the unknowns) each separate brand still gives the same relationship I have described above. However, even within a single product line there could be big variations in the mix between 5w20 and 20w40. All else equal, the 10w40 doesn't look so bad as it often is made out to be. And I believe today they have some very robust VIIs available, though I would not so much expect them in the bottom line oils. Likely the Chevron Supreme has more natural VI than some of the others I've listed, in which case their 5w30 may have less VII than another brand's 10w40.

 

[G-MAN]

As you have pointed out, you can't use the VI number to say that a given oil has more VI imporver in it than another oil with a different VI. This is especially true of 5w20 oils since the base oil blend used to build these oils is comprised of 40-60% Group III, which will have an inherent VI of 120 or higher. The typical VI of the base oils used to build a 20w50 will be in the 95-105 range. Therefore, it's entirely possible that a conventional 5w20 will have less VI improver than a 20w50. In fact, it's my theory that a 5w20 that meets Ford's WSS-M2C153-H spec will have the least amount of VI improver of any conventional oil.

 

[TallPaul]

Good point G-manII. So the 5w20 is more-or-less a blend. I purposefully left out the Valvoline Durablend as it would skew the table. Maybe I should have left out the 5w20 also. My table is a crude look, as it the old rule of thumb to not have a viscosity spread greater than 25. I do think that one is no worse off VII-wise with 10w40 than they are with 5w30, and it appears 10w30 may be the tightest--perhaps even tighter than a 5w20 dino? But it will vary with each brand oil.

 

[Ken2]

Viscosity index is determined by an oil's difference in viscosity between 40°C and 100°C. The "W" viscosity is determined at minus temperatures...-30°C for 5W, -25°C for 10W, etc. There are different quality viscosity index improvers available for different costs. Just about any viscosity oil can be made from a variety of base stock and the appropriate additive package...Group I and one add pack, Group II and a different add pack, Group II+ and yet another add pack. The relationship between the costs of the base oil and the cost of the add pack in some cases determines which the oil blender will use...and he may switch if prices change. In some cases it may be cheaper for the blender us use Group II oil and the add pack...if Group II is in short supply and the price rises, he can use Group I, maybe some Group II+, and a higher priced add pack. Ken [ February 28, 2004, 08:09 PM: Message edited by: Ken2 ]