Motul 8100 x-cess 5w-40

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Hi. Motul 8100 x-cess 5w-40 is this a PAO base oil? Or group 3 base oil? It says 100%synthetic on the lable. Thanks. [Cheers!]
 
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Originally posted by Toyota18: Hi. Motul 8100 x-cess 5w-40 is this a PAO base oil? Or group 3 base oil? It says 100%synthetic on the lable. Thanks. [Cheers!]
You better contact Motul. I think it is PAO but nobody can be sure these days.
 
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Originally posted by Dr. T: Actually, it says "Ester-based synthetic" right on the bottle.
Yes you are right. I just tried to edit my previous post but you got me.
 
Let's get a few things straight. Motul only makes a 0w40 and 0w30 (depending on the market) 8100 Ester based synthetic. There is also a 5w40 PAO 8100 X-cess, and a 5w30 Eco-energy PAO. There is also a 5w40 6100 Techno-synthesise (euro-speak for semi synthetic). Below is a link for Motul products available in Canada. http://www.motulcanada.ca/html/produitsE.html There is no great difference in Motul weights and oils in different world markets that I have seen. If you are sure there is a 5w40, 8100 E-tech Ester oil, prove it with a link. And I know for a fact there is no 8100 Ester 5w40 in Australia, only the 0w40 - the link above from theguru proves it. [ May 31, 2004, 09:54 PM: Message edited by: Losiho ]
 
8100 X-cess 5W-40 is renamed 6100 Synergie 5W-40 and mainly PAO based. 6100 10W-40 and 15W-50 are "Technosynthese" oils. As for 8100 Ester E-Tech, according to numerous Motul pages there is only 0W-40. But Porsche oil list bears also its 5W-40 version. May be it's some kind of a custom blend or a misprint. Today I asked our distributor to check its availability and possibility of supply. Let's see.
 
Come on, don't you see it? It may be listed wrongly but thats what it's written. 8100 X-cess ESTER 100% synthetic API SL/CF, ACEA A3/B3/B4 VW 502.00/505.00 BMW LL98 MERCEDES p.229.3 PORSCHE 5W40 X-cess Technical Data Sheet edit; motul canada [ June 01, 2004, 05:32 PM: Message edited by: yannis ]
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by yannis: Come on, don't you see it? [QUOTE] I do see it Yannis, but only the 0w40 oil is below the "8100 E-tech Ester" sub heading [Wink] But the way I'm reading it, the 5w40 is under : 5W40 X-cess Technical Data Sheet OEM Specific -VW 505.01 PAO Technosynthesis API SJ/CF, ACEA A3/B3 VW 500.00/505.00/505.01 My auto parts store and other dealers and service departments have also told me that it's not ester, only the 0w40 (again, only in this country). Anyway, it's not a huge deal [Smile] [Cheers!]
 
Sorry guys...yes, it was the 0-40 that said it was the ester-based synthetic.
 
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Originally posted by Losiho: But the way I'm reading it, the 5w40 is under : 5W40 X-cess Technical Data Sheet OEM Specific -VW 505.01 PAO Technosynthesis API SJ/CF, ACEA A3/B3 VW 500.00/505.00/505.01
Teklub page is quite hard to read in a correct way, may be cause of colors. The oil description and its specs are followed by technical data sheet in PDF, i.e. Motul Specific VW 505.01 is presented as follows: OEM Specific -VW 505.01 PAO Technosynthesis API SJ/CF, ACEA A3/B3 VW 500.00/505.00/505.01 5W40 VW 505.01 Technical Data Sheet
 
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Originally posted by Toyota18: Motul said 8100 x-cess 5w-40 is PAO/Group 3 blend. A$58 for 5L jug.
so PAO/Group 3 it is. Nice to know the truth at last [Cheers!]
 
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Originally posted by Toyota18: Motul said 8100 x-cess 5w-40 is PAO/Group 3 blend.
with an invisible trace of esters [Big Grin]
 
Hi Guys. I have changed my oil today from Mobil1 0w-40 to Motul 8100 X-cess 5w-40 not bad so far.Better performance and reduced engine noise at idle at fully operating temperature.Quality wise Mobil1 is better pure PAO.{2001 2.2L toyota camry}
 
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