Motul 300V 0w20, Honda Civic Si, 5800 miles

[SSDude]

It looks good especially the low level for lead. However, is this a normal read for Al in this engine?

 

[noob]

The car felt great with this oil, but it did go through 1.5qts of make-up oil over the 5800 mile interval. It's not excessive for a Honda that sees a lot of revs. I've got a Hondata ECU (+1000rpm redline) and ran an AEM CAI for all but the final 1,000 miles of this sample.

Miles on car 20,956
Miles on oil 5,800

Cu 4
Fe 17
Cr 0
Al 17
Pb 0
Mo 967
Ph 1407
Zn 1619
Mg 1531
Ca 2367

Si 17
S 10% of allowable
Oxidation 56% of allowable
Nitration 21% of allowable

Antifreeze 0.0
Fuel dilution N
H20 0.0
Vis 9.28

This was done by Schaeffer's and they don't test for TBN. All in all, I'd say it's a very good report considering the CAI (increased Si) and the extensive miles for the 300V. This oil looks like it could easily do 8,000 miles in a car with a stock intake.

 

[Leo]

The new double ester stuff has a HUGE additive pack!!

 

[Al]

I'm sure some of the aluminum is from silicon (dirt) from the lack of filtering of the intake.

 

[sdude2k2000]

My god that's a lot of additive!

 

[noob]

Yeah, with a stock intake, it'd be hard to imagine any wear happening between the double ester and the outrageous additive package. I had heard that 300V couldn't run long OCIs, but this looked pretty good at 5800 miles.

 

[Ken4]

Motul 300v double ester also caused elevated wear in mine. And I also got a top end leak after using this oil. VOAs show that 300v starts off with elevated silicon (anti-foamant).

 

[noob]

quote:

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Originally posted by Ken4:
Motul 300v double ester also caused elevated wear in mine. And I also got a top end leak after using this oil. VOAs show that 300v starts off with elevated silicon (anti-foamant).

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In that case, my CAI actually did a decent job of filtering. It was on for almost 5,000 miles of this UOA.

 

[theguru]

Ken4,

I don't see how you attribute elevated wear in your UOA with the use of 300v.

 

[Leo]

Like Redline, I believe 300V excels in motorsport applications, not daily drivers.

 

[goodvibes]

The elevated AL would worry me unless I found out that the bearings were made of lead and not aluminium.

 

[theguru]

Might not the Al be from the oil itself?

 

[buster]

This might be an oil you have to run a few times before oil consumption drops.

 

[Jim 5]

I would be worried about that aluminum if this was a summer OCI. In the japanese OHC engines I've seen, the cam bearings are integrated in the aluminum cylinder head casting, and elevated aluminum can relate to cam bearing wear.