It's been determined that MC 5-20 is part synthetic, and a great oil.
My question is if the new MC 5-30 is the same type of mixture, only in a slightly higher weight.
The bottle says it's synthetic [part], but does it mean the same thing as the 5-20? I'm not sure if it's a legal/sneaky thing, or if it's the same high quality as the 5-20.
I'm not sure from checking posts here - anybody know for sure?
Motorcraft 5-30: Synth or not?
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Don't know but around here the MC 5w-20 is about 6cents cheaper. Would that be a market thing ![[I dont know]](/forums/graemlins/dunno.gif)
The latest I have seen:
http://www.motorcraft.com/standard.asp?T=2&M=44&PageID=74
Only the 5W-20 is a synthetic blend. The 5W-30 doesn't say that. If the "new" 5W-30 says that its almost certainly the same.
The 5W-30 bottle of MC mentions "synthetic components" or something to that effect.
I don't have any, otherwise I'd type exactly what is on the bottle.
I put some MC 5w30 in my Ranger this evening, the bottle says it is made with "...synthetic/hydrocracked base oils". I noticed it stinks a bit, almost like gear oil, must have some stout addatives in there.
quote:The synthetic blend 5W-30 must be newer stuff and it hasn't made it to our Walmart. There, the 5W-20 says "made from synthetic/hydrocracked base oils", while the 5W-30 says "made from hydrocracked base oils"...
Originally posted by mikemc: I put some MC 5w30 in my Ranger this evening, the bottle says it is made with "...synthetic/hydrocracked base oils". I noticed it stinks a bit, almost like gear oil, must have some stout addatives in there.
quote:My local WM has the 5W-20 with "synthetic/hydrocracked base oils" for $1.89 and 5W-30 with same wording for $1.49. I was looking for the 10W-30 with the same wording, but found only "made from hydrocracked base oils" phrase.
Originally posted by jsharp:quote:The synthetic blend 5W-30 must be newer stuff and it hasn't made it to our Walmart. There, the 5W-20 says "made from synthetic/hydrocracked base oils", while the 5W-30 says "made from hydrocracked base oils"...
Originally posted by mikemc: I put some MC 5w30 in my Ranger this evening, the bottle says it is made with "...synthetic/hydrocracked base oils". I noticed it stinks a bit, almost like gear oil, must have some stout addatives in there.
Has anyone compared both oils the 5w-20 & 5w-30. It does say on the 5w-30 a hydrocrack/synthetic blend. And what about the recent media release Conoco saying both the 5w-20 and 5w-30 are indeed hydrocrack/synthetic blend. Also the 10w-30 & 10w-40 will soon follow in the year 2005.
What recent media release? Down here the mc 5w30 has had the hydrocracked/synthetic on the back of the bottle for a while. Posted on this a while back. Where did you see the media release, I'd be interested in that. btw: price here at wally world is he same 1.42 for all weights of motorcraft.
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Thanks guys.
Sounds too good to be true, if the price is kept moderate. I mean, if it's as good as the 5-20, and has a little more viscosity for peace of mind in stressfull summer conditions, I'll quit using M1 0-20 and save some cash - just change it more frequently.
quote:Unless it gets a whole lot hotter in Chicago than it does in Ft. Lauderdale I would feel quite comfortable using the MC 5w-20 (if thats what your auto call for). Check this out; http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=001803 BTW...I also noticed at Wally World that every viscosity Motorcraft (except the 15-40 HD) said "hydrocracked" on the rear label. The only difference between the 5w-20 bottle and all the other weights was the "synthetic blend" statement on the front of the label.
Originally posted by mechtech: Thanks guys. Sounds too good to be true, if the price is kept moderate. I mean, if it's as good as the 5-20, and has a little more viscosity for peace of mind in stressfull summer conditions, I'll quit using M1 0-20 and save some cash - just change it more frequently.
There is no question about it the UOA report is unreal...better than very good in that driving condition. Maybe Conoco was testing the MC 5w-30 without the public notice that it was in fact a hydrocrack/synthetic blend but in little fine print in the back of the bottle if people do read the Label.
I think the MC is a lot better than what people think it is and seeing it to be marketed and when did anyone see Conoco market it's oil. I can't see any company to market it's product unless in real world application it can back what they advertise to be successful in what they sell.
Could someone knowledgeable with CAS # please translate. Is the base oil Group I, II or II+?
Also, isn't the percentage of synthetic really high for a blend?
HITH - Unfortunately, the answer to your first question is simply, "Yes".
MSDS's written in this format do not reveal any relevant base oil info.
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The base oil for this product can be a mixture of any of the following highly refined petroleum streams: CAS 64741-88-4; CAS 64741-89-5; CAS 64741-96-4; CAS 64741-97-5; CAS 64742-01-4; CAS 64742-52-5; CAS 64742-53-6; CAS 64742-54-7; CAS 64742-55-8;CAS 64742-56-9; CAS 64742-57-0; CAS 64742-62-7; CAS 64742-63-8; CAS 64742-65-0; CAS 72623-83-7; CAS 72623-85-9; CAS 72623-86-0; CAS 72623-87-1
MikeP - I have nothing against light oils at all. I AM using a 0-20.
What I meant was aggresive driving in very hot weather. {Although it's been 10-15 degrees cooler all this summer here than in history ]
I wouldn't mind mixing 1/2 and 1/2 of 5-20 and 5-30, since my engine was originally spec'd for 5-30 [2.0 Ford Zetec - now spec'd 5-20].
I have a feeling that a lot of people are going to love this oil.
Has it been confirmed that Conoco is the maker of MotorCraft 5w20/5w30 oils?
Here is the latest info I've been able to find on Motorcraft oil. The MSDS links on the 5W20 & 5W30 oil pages show a Nov '04 update, complete with CAS #'s.
http://www.fcsdchemicalsandlubricants.com/supplier/category.asp?select=%5BMotor%20Oil%5D
Roger - Thanks for posting that. I was unaware of this Motorcraft site.
This Motorcraft MSDS 11/22/04 sheet is worth a look.
The product description is for the following oils:
SAE 5W-20 and 5W-30 Premium Synthetic Blend, 10W-30 Super Premium, and 10W-40 Premium Motor Oil.
Outside the 5W-30 grade, this could be the 1st indication we have that the heavier viscosities are also going the Grp III route for SM/GF-4.
quote:That's what I see on the shelves here.
Originally posted by Blue99: SAE 5W-20 and 5W-30 Premium Synthetic Blend, 10W-30 Super Premium, and 10W-40 Premium Motor Oil.
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