Patman:
"I forsee us keeping (my wife's) 2000 Civic for a very long time. I like it's design much better than the 2001s and up ... Her car has been flawless too, 36,000 miles without a single problem, not even anything minor."
Typical. I had one warranty repair on my car (fan speed switch) and then not a peep out of the thing until the salt they use around here rotted out the exhaust at 80,000 miles. Other than that and preventative maintenance, my car hasn't cost me a penny in repairs since I bought it 7 years ago.
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I expect a few rust spots inside the wheel well to come out and be visible in the next year or so.
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Back to the original subject, the word "synthetic" has become a marketing term, not a technical one. This is according to the API ... a bunch of worthless fools those blokes turned out to be!
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So, this is why two different companies can call the same exact base oil (and resulting formula) by very different labels and it's all legal 'n such.
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Yes
dragboat, please post those 5W20 sample numbers when you get them ... especially if your car has more than 10,000 miles on it.