Just curious if anyone can speak to what happens with moly at the turbo oil bearing interface?
Moly and turbos (turbo oil bearings in particular)
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MolaKule
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Pablo,
The same thing that happens with any other rotating or rubbing surface. If the hydrodynamic film breaks, the moly acts as a back-up AW/EP additive to prevent catastrophic failure.
Since the oil temps in the turbo are usually higher, I would think the moly would start forming an organometallic surface film long before any hydrodynamic film rupture.
[ November 26, 2002, 10:27 AM: Message edited by: MolaKule ]
The same thing that happens with any other rotating or rubbing surface. If the hydrodynamic film breaks, the moly acts as a back-up AW/EP additive to prevent catastrophic failure.
Since the oil temps in the turbo are usually higher, I would think the moly would start forming an organometallic surface film long before any hydrodynamic film rupture.
[ November 26, 2002, 10:27 AM: Message edited by: MolaKule ]
from the 'kule:
Uh, any recommedations?
This is what I was thinking and why I was thinking about adding a little moly to the 'ol Amsoil for the turbo.
Uh, any recommedations?
MolaKule
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Pablo,
I have done the same thing with my '86 Burb. I run Amsoil 10W30 ATM and use the SDF24 Long Version with the following:
1. 1 quart of Schaeffer's #703 10W30
2. 250 mL of Schaeffer's #132.
Will have an analysis later this year or early next year since we have put about 4k miles on it.
I have done the same thing with my '86 Burb. I run Amsoil 10W30 ATM and use the SDF24 Long Version with the following:
1. 1 quart of Schaeffer's #703 10W30
2. 250 mL of Schaeffer's #132.
Will have an analysis later this year or early next year since we have put about 4k miles on it.
I'm not a fan of driveway blending but Red Line has a whopping 600ppms of soluble moly in their formula. If you are looking for a concentrated form of the stuff, I think you will be hard pressed to find a better source.
--- Bror Jace
--- Bror Jace
MolaKule
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Bror,
For sure, it has moly out the ying-yang.
I was using the 132 for a few of the other additives contained therein.
As with any blending or experimetation I agree. Without proper research and used oil analysis, it is not a good idea to "backyard" blend.
For sure, it has moly out the ying-yang.
I was using the 132 for a few of the other additives contained therein.
As with any blending or experimetation I agree. Without proper research and used oil analysis, it is not a good idea to "backyard" blend.
600 ppm sounds like a bit much....and why spend out the yangse for Redline, when I can spend out the yangse for Amsoil!
I was thinking in the 150 ppm range...
BTW I agree with the blending comments. I would NEVER tell a customer to do such a thing. Sometimes I need to satisfy my wild hair....ocaisionally I ruin something...you can ask my wife
I was thinking in the 150 ppm range...
BTW I agree with the blending comments. I would NEVER tell a customer to do such a thing. Sometimes I need to satisfy my wild hair....ocaisionally I ruin something...you can ask my wife
Well, at least you're man enough to admit it!
MolaKule
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Pablo,
You are in good company; we all have done the Tim Allen dance at least once in our lives!
You are in good company; we all have done the Tim Allen dance at least once in our lives!
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