Mobil1 0w-40 SuperSyn - 10200km / 9 years OCI!

[turboseize]

Dear forum, yes, I know: the BITOG mantra is "synthetics don't protect better, but they protect longer." A short while ago, a user signed up in a german forum and asked for advice selecting an oil for his next oil change, and also on proper oil change intervals. The car: a V8 Jaguar. Mostly short-tripped. And driven mostly during winter months. When he changed his oil, thankfully he supplied us with an UOA: [img]http://oil-club.de/index.php?attachment/6196-oelcheck-2017-jpg/[/img] Source: Mobil1 Protection Formula 0W-40 (SuperSyn) - Jaguar XJR V8 - 4.500 Km / 10.200 Km Wear metal seem high for the mileage, but with a severely short tripped car, higher wear is to be expected. Astonishing is the state of the oil. We do not see TBN and TAN, but ocidation, nitration and sulfation are quite astonishingly low for a nine-years-and-four-and-a-half-month oil change interval. PAO rock. Period.

 

[Quattro Pete]

Nice!

 

[daves87rs]

Cool!

 

[Artem]

What's more astonishing to me is, here's this awesome Jag. It's madly expensive, and they go 9 years without changing the Lube on it?! I mean, let's picture this for second... Ok you go one year, fine, 2, 3 by year 4, it's been freakin 4 YEARS that the oil has been in the engine. Most oil manfactures have the standard 1 year life expectancy rating on the oil. I can't imagine going 5 years on it. 6 years. 7, 8, NINE YEARS ON SAME Engine Oil!!!!!

 

[dnewton3]

Yet another example that lubes don't know how old they are. The OEM OCIs are predicated on reducing warranty exposure for the OEM, not maximizing ROI for the owner or reducing environmental resource waste.

 

[Dyusik]

And oh look, shirt trips in cold weather. Thank you for sharing this, hopefully it will disperse some nonsense around here.

 

[wemay]

I think this is much more, the exception and not the rule. Maybe I've been brainwashed.

 

[SHOZ]

Originally Posted By: Artem

What's more astonishing to me is, here's this awesome Jag. It's madly expensive, and they go 9 years without changing the Lube on it?! I mean, let's picture this for second... Ok you go one year, fine, 2, 3 by year 4, it's been freakin 4 YEARS that the oil has been in the engine. Most oil manfactures have the standard 1 year life expectancy rating on the oil. I can't imagine going 5 years on it. 6 years. 7, 8, NINE YEARS ON SAME Engine Oil!!!!!

It's enough to give a BITOG member the vapors.....

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

9 years and 6300 miles... I'm not so much surprised at the 9 years as I am the only 6300 miles during that time. That's 700 miles PER YEAR. I certainly wouldn't pay for plates and insurance for anything used that little. I think this guy needs his head checked for this, not the fact he went 9 years without changing the oil

 

[Kuato]

Originally Posted By: SubieRubyRoo

9 years and 6300 miles... I'm not so much surprised at the 9 years as I am the only 6300 miles during that time. That's 700 miles PER YEAR. I certainly wouldn't pay for plates and insurance for anything used that little. I think this guy needs his head checked for this, not the fact he went 9 years without changing the oil

We here in the US drive a LOT more than most Europeans. I had a debate with a guy from England, he was complaining about how far we drive. I lived in Eastern Montana at the time, and let him know that if I drove 8 hours West, I'd still be in the same state. If he drove 8 hours East from London, he'd be somewhere in Germany or Poland, having crossed several international borders. It's a matter of scale and our driving distances reflect it; the US (and Australia for that matter) are huge compared to European countries.

 

[danielLD]

Originally Posted By: Kuato

Originally Posted By: SubieRubyRoo

9 years and 6300 miles... I'm not so much surprised at the 9 years as I am the only 6300 miles during that time. That's 700 miles PER YEAR. I certainly wouldn't pay for plates and insurance for anything used that little. I think this guy needs his head checked for this, not the fact he went 9 years without changing the oil

We here in the US drive a LOT more than most Europeans. I had a debate with a guy from England, he was complaining about how far we drive. I lived in Eastern Montana at the time, and let him know that if I drove 8 hours West, I'd still be in the same state. If he drove 8 hours East from London, he'd be somewhere in Germany or Poland, having crossed several international borders. It's a matter of scale and our driving distances reflect it; the US (and Australia for that matter) are huge compared to European countries.

Yes and in Europe, the roads were built for bicycles and carriages. In the US, most roads were built for cars and trucks.

 

[Dyusik]

Originally Posted By: Kuato

Originally Posted By: SubieRubyRoo

9 years and 6300 miles... I'm not so much surprised at the 9 years as I am the only 6300 miles during that time. That's 700 miles PER YEAR. I certainly wouldn't pay for plates and insurance for anything used that little. I think this guy needs his head checked for this, not the fact he went 9 years without changing the oil

We here in the US drive a LOT more than most Europeans. I had a debate with a guy from England, he was complaining about how far we drive. I lived in Eastern Montana at the time, and let him know that if I drove 8 hours West, I'd still be in the same state. If he drove 8 hours East from London, he'd be somewhere in Germany or Poland, having crossed several international borders. It's a matter of scale and our driving distances reflect it; the US (and Australia for that matter) are huge compared to European countries.

Went to visit family in Germany and they did not hesitate to drive 300-500 miles per day for sight seeing and whatnot. My cousin came the same time we did, they opted to drive 1400 miles. The longest road trip I have ever been on living in the US was prompted by an EU citizen. I would not have thought to drive for almost 1200 miles, he didn't even consider train/plane. Maybe it's just me, but I have a feeling Europeans drive more.

 

[bigt61]

For cars that aren't driven much, and garage kept, I'm not surprised. Here's my Suburban after a 5yr OCI. https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthr...M1_#Post4190879

 

[ekpolk]

Originally Posted by Dyusik

. . . Maybe it's just me, but I have a feeling Europeans drive more.

Generalizing accurately and meaningfully on such things is virtually impossible. . .

 

[ProbeGT]

I would be more interested in seeing the condition of the filter medium after 9 years of soaking in oil.

 

[KEVINK0000]

Amazing that this thread never got locked after all this time. Maybe it will be open as long as the oil was in the sump? That would be a good tribute.

 

[Samrsnow]

Amazing that this thread never got locked after all this time. Maybe it will be open as long as the oil was in the sump? That would be a good tribute.

I just tried to click on the OP's link and my antivirus program went nuts saying it was a phishing link.

 

[mdtaylor86]

I just tried to click on the OP's link and my antivirus program went nuts saying it was a phishing link.

You'd probably hook a lot of people with a thread title like that here.