This might as well be a thread on Superman vs Hulk!!
Mobil 1 vs. all other DINO oils
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Sorry to interrupt you guys, but here is my math (Canadian dollars). I drive 35,000km a year. I use M1 5w30 and I change it every 5,000km as per owner's manual, the car is on the warranty, I don't want ANY issues with extended OCIs.
The cost of the oil for me is $224.00/year ($32/4.4L bottle at WalMart, regular price including taxes). During the same year I burn about 3,000L of fuel, for the total cost of $2,230 or something. M1 vs dino helps to save about 2% on fuel (conservative) which is about $45.
Now good dino at 5,000km OCI at $12 for 5 liter bottle would cost $77/year. The difference between M1 and dino less fuel savings is about $102/year. $8.53 a month. Even less for majority of us here who drive less (and to whom synthetics is even more important due to sorter trips or city driving).
This is less then the cigarettes pack or visit to Wendy's. Is it worth not to pay this very small premium for the better stuff?
Am I missing something?
The cost of the oil for me is $224.00/year ($32/4.4L bottle at WalMart, regular price including taxes). During the same year I burn about 3,000L of fuel, for the total cost of $2,230 or something. M1 vs dino helps to save about 2% on fuel (conservative) which is about $45.
Now good dino at 5,000km OCI at $12 for 5 liter bottle would cost $77/year. The difference between M1 and dino less fuel savings is about $102/year. $8.53 a month. Even less for majority of us here who drive less (and to whom synthetics is even more important due to sorter trips or city driving).
This is less then the cigarettes pack or visit to Wendy's. Is it worth not to pay this very small premium for the better stuff?
Am I missing something?
In all fairness, while we have many M1 fans on this board, it certainly is not the perfect PCMO for all applications. A fairly common complaint is the noise issue, especially when switching from dino to M1.
Anyone remember these threads?
M1 & Excessive Engine Noise
Another Noisey Mobil 1 Topic
Anyone remember these threads?
M1 & Excessive Engine Noise
Another Noisey Mobil 1 Topic
No, no, I saw the TV commercial last night. It has something like "aligned molecules".quote:
Originally posted by Boeing 757 Pilot:
Jelly, is Castrol Start Up any better than GTX....or is this just a marketing gimmick for us to buy a more expensive oil??
Aligned molecules,where do the make the stuff Chernovol
I think mobil 1 will beat most dino,s hands down,my problem is that at 2500 miles it,s all I can do to leave the oil in until 3000 miles,6000miles would be shear torture
Too bad they have their marketing so goofy. This stuff may fall by the wayside from lack of sales, but I would think that if there is a significant proportion of ester Group V in it, that it just might be their best oil. But I can't get ahold of the precentage, nor have we seen any UOAs--and probably won't given the price. Ah well, a good idea poorly executed. But I am going to make my own "Start Up" by adding judicious quantities of Redline Group V ester motor oil to my regular oil. Don't try to stop me, you can't. I'm going on a bender with this stuff......quote:
Originally posted by JohnnyO:
No, no, I saw the TV commercial last night. It has something like "aligned molecules".quote:
Originally posted by Boeing 757 Pilot:
Jelly, is Castrol Start Up any better than GTX....or is this just a marketing gimmick for us to buy a more expensive oil??
[ August 24, 2004, 01:39 PM: Message edited by: TallPaul ]
On the contrary, you will see a UOA. I have Start-up in my car right now with about 1200 miles on it and an Amsoil SDF20 filter. I am going to take it to 5000 miles and send a sample in without draining, keep running it until I get the report back, and follow their suggestions. This is in a Subaru Impreza 2.5L.
I just have to figure out how to get the oil out for the sample without draining it all...Any suggestions?
Nate
I just have to figure out how to get the oil out for the sample without draining it all...Any suggestions?
Nate
What factors would you attribute this to? What properties does M1 have that dinos don't that influence the points on that list?
Look forward to it. As for the right proportion, maybe MoleKule would have an idea.
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