Mobil 1 V-Twin 20W50, 1237 miles, 2004 Kawasaki ZZR250

Status
Not open for further replies.
Joined
May 21, 2005
Messages
391
Location
OTTAWA, ON, CA
Most recent UOA is on the left; I included the others for comparison and I hope it doesn't mess up the formatting. I think I'm going to go for longer OCI's now, but still do an oil change during the winterizing process. I did not like cold start-up with this oil; shifting felt fine once warmed-up. Another useless fact, the average fuel economy during each of the OCI's was from left to right 66.58, 66.51, 65.86 in U.S. M.P.G.
code:
 
Sample Date	26-AUG-2006	17-June-2006
Analysis Date	29-AUG-2006	20-June-2006	22-OCT-2005
Lab  		WEAR CHECK	WEAR CHECK	WEAR CHECK

Make		Kawasaki
Model		ZZR250
Year		2004
Engine		248cc L2
Miles		10862		9625		8329
 
Oil Brand	Mobil		Mobil		Mobil
Oil Series	M1 V-Twin	M1 MX4T		M1
Oil SAE J300	20W50		10W40		15W50
API SX		SG/SH/MA	SG/SH/MA	SL
Miles on Oil	1237		1295		875
Months		2		7.8		1.4
 
Antimony Sb	NR		NR		NR
Cadmium Cd	NR		NR		NR
Vanadium V	0.1		0.1		0.2
Aluminum Al	7.8		8.8		6
Chromium Cr	0.4		0.6		0.5
Iron Fe		7.9		10		7.7
Copper Cu	1.9		3.4		4.7
Lead Pb		0.7		1.1		0
Tin Sn		0		0.5		0.6
Molybdenum Mo	70		71		83
Nickel		0		0		0
Manganese Mn	0.9		4.9		0.4
Silver Ag	0		0		0
Titanium Ti	0.1		0.1		0.1
Potassium K	0		0		0
Boron B		202		182		211
Silicon Si	4.7		5.8		5.3
Sodium Na	1.7		1.6		19
Calcium Ca	2063		2173		3166
Magnesium Mg	12		14		20
Phosporus P	1366		1436		1190
Zinc Zn		1385		1484		1334
Barium Ba	0		0.1		0.3
Sulfur		2801		2590		2405 
 
cST @ 100 C	17.0		12.5		14.6
SUS @ 210 F	NR		NR		NR
 
Flashpoint (F)	NR		NR		NR
Fuel %		<2.0		0		<2.0
Antifreeze %	NR		NR		NR
Water %		<0.1		<0.1		<0.1
Insolubles %	NR		NR		NR
Sulfation	51		56		61
Oxidation	48		63		71
Nitration	20		28		34
TBN		NR		NR		NR
TAN		NR		3.26		3.55
Ferrous Debris	NR		NR		NR
Fuel Soot %	NR		NR		NR
Glycol		NEGATIVE	NEGATIVE	POSITIVE
ISO Code	NR		NR		NR
Additives	NONE		NONE		NONE
 
URL		NR		t=000079	t=000057 
 
Notes		Sample at next interval
Location	Ottawa, ON, CAN
 
Air Filter	Kawasaki OEM	Kawasaki OEM	Kawasaki OEM
Oil Filter	FRAM CH6012	FRAM CH6012	FRAM CH6012
  
 
***Particle Count***
>2 micron	NR		NR		NR
>5 micron	NR		NR		NR
>10 micron	NR		NR		NR
>15 micron	NR		NR		NR
>25 micron	NR		NR		NR
>50 micron	NR		NR		NR
>100 micron	NR		NR		NR

 

 

craigq

Thread starter
Joined
May 21, 2005
Messages
391
Location
OTTAWA, ON, CA
Same oil as the one above on the left. The samples were taken about 5 seconds apart, for some reason no viscosity testing was done. Different lab, Toromont-CAT results:
code:
Sample Date	26-AUG-2006
Analysis Date	2-SEP-2006
Lab  		Toromont-CAT

Make		Kawasaki
Model		ZZR250
Year		2004
Engine		248cc L2
Miles		10862
 
Oil Brand	Mobil
Oil Series	M1 V-Twin
Oil SAE J300	20W50
API SX		SG/SH/MA
Miles on Oil	1237
Months		2.3
 
Antimony Sb	NR
Cadmium Cd	NR
Vanadium V	NR
Aluminum Al	6
Chromium Cr	0
Iron Fe		9
Copper Cu	1
Lead Pb		0
Tin Sn		0
Molybdenum Mo	67
Nickel		0
Manganese Mn	NR
Silver Ag	0
Titanium Ti	NR
Potassium K	1
Boron B		0
Silicon Si	3
Sodium Na	9
Calcium Ca	NR
Magnesium Mg	NR
Phosporus P	NR
Zinc Zn		1025
Barium Ba	NR
Sulfur		NR
 
cST @ 100 C	NR
SUS @ 210 F	NR
 
Flashpoint (F)	NR
Fuel %		NEGATIVE
Antifreeze %	NEGATIVE
Water %		NEGATIVE
Insolubles %	NR
Sulfation	NR
Oxidation	NR
Nitration	NR
TBN		NR
TAN		NR
Ferrous Debris	NR
Fuel Soot %	NR
Glycol		NR
ISO Code	NR
Additives	NONE
 
URL		
 
Notes		Sample at next interval
Location	Ottawa, ON, CAN
 
Air Filter	Kawasaki OEM
Oil Filter	FRAM CH6012
  
 
***Particle Count***
>2 micron	NR
>5 micron	NR
>10 micron	NR
>15 micron	NR
>25 micron	NR
>50 micron	NR
>100 micron	NR

 
Joined
Jun 28, 2005
Messages
2,192
Location
Cedar Park, TX
dont you just love it when the numbers from 2 labs do NOT match. i sure do. also notice how mobil 1 15w50 did not hold its viscosity very well in less miles! nice wear metals! very nice mpg out of the baby ninja!
 

mdv

Joined
Oct 24, 2002
Messages
531
Location
MA
quote:
Originally posted by craigq: I did not like cold start-up with this oil; shifting felt fine once warmed-up. Another useless fact, the average fuel economy during each of the OCI's was from left to right 66.58, 66.51, 65.86 in U.S. M.P.G.
I think you'll like a 10W-40 better in this bike. I have a Ninja 500 and the shifting is very consistent and I have quick warm up times. Thick oil (especially on start up)concerns me in these engines as they rev so high all the time. My mileage also ranges from 56-65 mpg, I would think you should be in the 70 range with a 10W-40 unless you ride it pinned all the time.
 
Joined
Aug 15, 2006
Messages
137
Location
Milwaukee
Same thoughts as MDV, 10w-40 is all you need. xx-50 oils is getting pretty heavy for that light weight, free spinning motor. (Any bike motor for that matter, except 750+ air cooled twins.)
 

craigq

Thread starter
Joined
May 21, 2005
Messages
391
Location
OTTAWA, ON, CA
sunruh: Thanks for the comments. It makes me sort of laugh at UOA's after seeing the differences between the two labs [Smile] Especially when people fret over a difference of 5 ppm from one oil to the next etc. mdv: 10W40 yielded 0.07 US MPG less than 20W50. I think that could be considered statistically insignificant. This is going to sound odd: from what I've read online EX500's in the US average 50-60 US MPG. EX250's in the US average 55-70 US MPG. For mine in Canada this season it's been 62.73-70.86 US MPG. I've been to the US once with my car, and the fuel there yielded much better efficiency than the fuel up here, could it be something in our Canadian fuel ??? Or maybe I just ride with it pinned all the time [Big Grin]
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top