Originally Posted By: river_rat
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Bill doesn't believe in synthetics, I guess. I
think I'm doing right by my engine and saving money in the long run. I will stick to synthetic.
But you don't
KNOW... So its a risk. Not a fact!
Running syn does not guarantee you 200k any more than conventional oil does (though Valvoline, QS and Pennzoil all have warranty plans well past that... WITH THEIR CHEAPEST OILS (which would be conventional)
So its a big RISK to run conventional oils huh?
The oil companies sure must not think so...
(and MOST of you syn users also fall into the If syn is better than changing it more often is EVEN BETTER!) So you change it more often than someone who SHOULD change conventional oil!
I'd rather invest the $$ into something that matters.
Now, If I can get the oil on sale (like QS syn for $8 for 5 quarts or Mobil 1 which WAS $5 for 5 quarts after the rebate) then I'll buy it.
But, in the end it does not matter for most of us. You can try to justify it as much as you want and that's great.
But face the facts, millions of miles are operated using whatever the bulk tank has (more people have their oil changed FOR them than do it themselves, so right away a DIY person is doing more than the average owner)
Doing it your self and following the manual DOES work.
I'd like everyone who runs syn to show me the place in the manual where it says you HAVE to run it.
If EVERYONE who does did, I'll guarantee we would see more manuals with the following words;
API Grade S_ "energy-conserving" or ILSAC multigrade engine oil is recommended. (or something like that)
than;
MUST USE SYNTHETIC OIL...
But hey, what do I know?
Since almost 90% of the engines out there run the "liquid dirt" oil (yes, a member of BITOG uses that description trying to sell his product
)
And I'm having a hard time driving to work with all those vehicles clogging the road since they have failed.
I've got nothing against running syn is engines that don't require it. But PLEASE don't feel your superior to people who decide not to spend the $$, because again, in the end it does not matter for most people.
That is if you keep the car. And it does not rust out. Or get totaled (and remember to tell the insurance company that you run syn oil in the engine, they will give you more $$)
Take care, bill