Mobil 1 to Quaker State synthetic?

[PetTrol420]

Hello everyone. Newbie here to the post but I have to say that I love this site. Anyways, I have a 98 Integra that I've had since new and have used Mobil 1 in it since the first oil change and only had dino in it once at around 70,000 miles. The car currently has 141,000 miles on it. Let me share a pic of the valvetrain when I adjusted the valves yesterday. http://s133.photobucket.com/albums/q57/petrol420/?action=view&current=PDR_0017.jpg
My question is does anybody use Quaker State synthetic and do you like it? I wanna switch M1 to something else because of this whole Group 3 business. I understand that M1 is still a very good oil but if they're using Group 3 like everybody else is, I'd rather pay for something cheaper and the Quaker State synth at Walmart is a little under $19 for a 5 gallon jug. So if anyone here uses QS synth, any feedback would be appreciated.

 

[Gene K]

If they also have Pennzoil Platinum for the same price I would go for the PP (most do). The QS will work to though. I imagine the PP should be good for around 10,000 mi in a 4 cylinder Honda without any sweat. I know, Iknow, Acura...

 

[dave1251]

If you want to try Quaker State try it. It will give you almost the same performance (maybe better) than Mobil One. Plus it cost less. Go for it!

 

[Fordiesel69]

The PP uses slightly better basestocks than the QS according to soem folks on here. Although the few QS UOA's shows awsome results, I would go with the PP for the same price.

Or just use the regular non extended performance mobil 1. I guess that is still PAO.

 

[Gene K]

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Or just use the regular non extended performance mobil 1. I guess that is still PAO.

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The oil with those specs in Japan claims to contain Group III.

My guess is that both flavors of 5W-30 and 10W-30 contain Group III.

 

[wgtoys]

That photo is a thing of beauty. Nothing like seeing a clean higher mileage engine. IMO any name brand synthetic is going to do an excellent job for you as long as you stay within the mfg. recommended oil change intervals. What did Honda/Acura call for on the '98 Integra, 10k miles?

I have some QS Synthetic purchased on a recent sale but haven't used it yet. If you have access to a Kragen they have a coupon + rebate deal on Pennzoil Platinum synthetic right now which works out to $.99/quart!

 

[427Z06]

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Or just use the regular non extended performance mobil 1. I guess that is still PAO.

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I believe most analysis's by knowledgeable people conclude that all current Mobil 1 and Mobil 1 EP grades most likely contain Group III basestocks with the exceptions being MC and Delvac 1 formulas. Some contain mostly Group IIIs while a few grades may use some to conserve on PAO.

http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=778537
http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=782890

 

[PetTrol420]

wgtoys.... The Acura manual says to change the oil every 7500 miles. btw, thanks for the info on kragen. Thats the auto parts store I always go to except for oil. I get that at Walmart. Also, thanks for the kind words.

Fordiesel69....I would continue to use Mobil 1 but its almost 5 bucks more than the QS synth.

Gene K....I usually call my car a Honda but I didn't want to get into semantics with a person who doesn't know the difference.

 

[Big Jim]

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Or just use the regular non extended performance mobil 1. I guess that is still PAO.

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I believe most analysis's by knowledgeable people conclude that all current Mobil 1 and Mobil 1 EP grades most likely contain Group III basestocks with the exceptions being MC and Delvac 1 formulas. Some contain mostly Group IIIs while a few grades may use some to conserve on PAO.

http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=778537
http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=782890

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Now just where in that thread did you find additional GC testing? I can't find it. From what I can tell it is still an unsettled issue.

 

[unDummy]

Yep, any synthetic oil will work well. You didn't mention the oil change interval. If reasonable, no need to spend more on the M1(which IMO is one of the best longer OCI oils regardless of group).

 

[Fordiesel69]

Yep, Mobil 1 is pricing themselves out of the market. What OCI are you using currently. My vote goes to PP and QS if the PP is not avail.

See this link: http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/s...true#Post766614

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Other than the additive difference, the base stocks are different. The PP is made from the Shell XHVI Group III base while the QS is made from a Group III that is more than likely purchased from Chevron. The Q-Torque product uses the same QS base but has a different additive package than other QS synthetics.

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[PetTrol420]

I usually do a 7500 mile oci. Last time I pushed it to 9000 miles though but I've never gotten a UOA so I don't know if that was advantages or not. On my next oil change, I'm going to get a UOA. I already got my blackstone labs kit.

What do you guys thing about this? I have some Quaker State dino that I got laying around and I wanna use it. You guys think it would be alright to use that up and then go back to sythetic?

 

[wavinwayne]

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...I have some Quaker State dino that I got laying around and I wanna use it. You guys think it would be alright to use that up and then go back to sythetic?

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Absolutely, as long as the QS dino is of the proper viscosity & API rating, use it with pride. QS is excellent oil.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Why not save the dino for a few years? Oil is good for generally 10 years. Just keep it under the basement steps - far corner of the furnace room... etc. Or you can concoct a 50-50 syn-blend for the next couple of OCIs.

 

[PetTrol420]

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Why not save the dino for a few years? Oil is good for generally 10 years. Just keep it under the basement steps - far corner of the furnace room... etc. Or you can concoct a 50-50 syn-blend for the next couple of OCIs.

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I've had the Quaker State dino for over a year now and I just wanna use it and get it out of the way. My garage is cluttered as it is.

 

[va3ux]

I've had 3 UOA's on QS Synthetic. Stellar results every time. My engine is harder on oil than most so I only run it 4K miles. But in a Honda, it should be able run quite a bit longer than my measly 4K miles.

 

[PetTrol420]

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I've had 3 UOA's on QS Synthetic. Stellar results every time. My engine is harder on oil than most so I only run it 4K miles. But in a Honda, it should be able run quite a bit longer than my measly 4K miles.

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Thanks, this was the response I was looking for.

 

[427Z06]

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Or just use the regular non extended performance mobil 1. I guess that is still PAO.

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I believe most analysis's by knowledgeable people conclude that all current Mobil 1 and Mobil 1 EP grades most likely contain Group III basestocks with the exceptions being MC and Delvac 1 formulas. Some contain mostly Group IIIs while a few grades may use some to conserve on PAO.

http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=778537
http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=782890

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Now just where in that thread did you find additional GC testing? I can't find it. From what I can tell it is still an unsettled issue.

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That was the point of the second thread. The guy who was going to prove M1 was still mostly PAO by GC, bailed. Not very comforting if you based your hope on him.

Reread these analysis:

http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/s...8537#Post778537
http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/s...2890#Post782890

There's also the Japanese website and other industry insiders that confirm the above.

 

[buster]

Don't put your hopes on M1 being anything but Group III or containing at least majority Grp III in most of their oils. Many industry insiders all ready knew this.

 

[Big Jim]

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Or just use the regular non extended performance mobil 1. I guess that is still PAO.

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I believe most analysis's by knowledgeable people conclude that all current Mobil 1 and Mobil 1 EP grades most likely contain Group III basestocks with the exceptions being MC and Delvac 1 formulas. Some contain mostly Group IIIs while a few grades may use some to conserve on PAO.

http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=778537
http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=782890

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Now just where in that thread did you find additional GC testing? I can't find it. From what I can tell it is still an unsettled issue.

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That was the point of the second thread. The guy who was going to prove M1 was still mostly PAO by GC, bailed. Not very comforting if you based your hope on him.

Reread these analysis:

http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/s...8537#Post778537
http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/s...2890#Post782890

There's also the Japanese website and other industry insiders that confirm the above.

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This is unreal. No new information, just a reciting of what you already posted. There is a complete loss of logic here.

Sorry, there isn't enough there for me to join you "sky is falling" crowd.