Mobil 1 - Is a higher end Synthetic

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Originally Posted By: greenaccord02
That went over my head pablo... You think Art is pulling a Mike Phelps?


This is very entertaining, the Mobil 1 posts always bring out some interesting responses.
 
Originally Posted By: FastSUV
this site has convinced me that modern dino is better than we thought it was if used at an appropriate OCI & service level.


I feel the same way. I'm amazed how good modern dino is. I just got a bunch of synthetic on sale, Kendal GT-1, Valvoline Synpower and Mobil 1. That's the only reason I bought them over dino. This site points me towards dino more and more all the time. Like Bill's Las Vegas, 112 F dino thread today. I just think it's great.

I'd happily use Yellow Bottle, Motorcraft etc again, as it doesn't seem synthetic offers the average owner much benefit. Mobil 1 EP and Castrol EDGE are distinguished by their extended drain capacity of course. But other than that.
 
Originally Posted By: Pablo
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I generally agree with the OP. Among OTC synthetics, M1 is a slightly better oil. Handles heat a little better, keeps engines a bit cleaner, flows/pumps a lot better in the cold...not sure its JUST from the group IV content, but in general the base oil/additive mix that IS M1. The whole package is a bit better overall.
 
Originally Posted By: Pablo
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Yeah Artie here......over

feeeeeeeeer............set the bong down Artie.......over

Huh??...over

Put the bong down and move away from the curtains....over

That is NOT a bong....over

Whatever you say....now put it down....over

Put what down?........over....

The bong, Artie, the bong.........over


Pablo,

Your the one selling the dope.
 
Originally Posted By: FastSUV
this site has convinced me that modern dino is better than we thought it was if used at an appropriate OCI & service level.


You mean after all this time Bill is finally getting his point across.
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Originally Posted By: greenaccord02
That went over my head pablo... You think Art is pulling a Mike Phelps?


Not at all.

On one hand he says M1 must have superior ingredients. On the other, you don't really need them.

I enjoy non-scientific opinion sharing as much as the next fat person.

BTW, where is M1888?
 
There wouldn't even be a controversy surrounding Mobil 1 if:

1)Legitimate concerns about the base oil composition have been raised when they still promoted the product as 100% PAO

2) Higher wear metals, especially FE, in oil analysis

3) 3 of it's competitors claiming their product has superior wear protection, and 1 going as far as to claim Mobil 1 won't even pass API SM specs

As far as price is concerned, there's no telling how much it costs EM to produce Mobil 1 without being a cost accountant for EM!

In addition, just because it's usually the most expensive product on the shelf, save for Castrol Edge, that in and of itself shouldn't lead anyone to conclude that it's better (unless you're a Mobil 1 Koolaid addict
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)! I think that's been proven here time and time again.

Considering that Pennzoil Platinum now meets HT-06, it's generally cheaper then Mobil 1, and it's proven itself a very capable oil, I'd say all things considered, it's the best OTC passenger car oil you can buy at your local auto parts store.
 
Mobil 1 is ExxonMobil's flagship product and it's been considered the "gold standard" of synthetics for over 30 years.

Synthetics have become increasingly more popular and the performance gap has closed between most oils. Mobil 1's advantages are not as substantial as they used to be.

As long as XOM is around and the leader in base oil technology, I would assume Mobil 1 will always be a top tier oil.
 
Art= Quattro just about said it all.

Don't buy any oil ..at any price, if you're not going to get your money's worth out of it. Since people are different ..so will be the term "value" in their purchasing.

Mobil probably has the best line up of over the counter products in the world in most sensible terms. Whether or not they're needed for your situation usually falls into opinion.

We're people of perceived margins when it comes to motor oils. Wasted margins are considered beneficial. Closer margins are considered risque or destructive. Viscosity ..base stock ..what have you. "I can endure 25X the abuse that I can possibly dish out" ..relpy: "Good move! You really know how to care for an engine."

That is, would you buy "magic oil" if you didn't live on the other side of the rainbow?

Edit: What I've found (this is an observation) is that motor oil choice is used as a para-mood stabilizer/phobia inhibitor. You choose based on how it makes you feel.
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Originally Posted By: Pablo
Originally Posted By: greenaccord02
That went over my head pablo... You think Art is pulling a Mike Phelps?


Not at all.

On one hand he says M1 must have superior ingredients. On the other, you don't really need them.


I got ya.
 
Originally Posted By: Pablo

On one hand he says M1 must have superior ingredients. On the other, you don't really need them.



You sell a product that makes its name based on the virtue of superior ingredients. Wouldn't that make them important?

Are you claiming Mobil 1 doesn't contain Group IV and or V as per its foreign MSDS data? Since MSD sheets, are legitimate Chemical documents, that makes them scientific enough don't you think?
 
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Originally Posted By: Pablo

On one hand he says M1 must have superior ingredients. On the other, you don't really need them.



You sell a product that makes its name based on the virtue of superior ingredients. Wouldn't that make them important?

Are you claiming Mobil 1 doesn't contain Group IV and or V as per its foreign MSDS data? Since MSD sheets, are legitimate Chemical documents, that makes them scientific enough don't you think?


No, he's saying you must be high because you're not making a clear point.
 
Originally Posted By: Art_Vandelay
Originally Posted By: Pablo
[quote=greenaccord02
On one hand he says M1 must have superior ingredients. On the other, you don't really need them.



You sell a product that makes its name based on the virtue of superior ingredients. Wouldn't that make them important?

Are you claiming Mobil 1 doesn't contain Group IV and or V as per its foreign MSDS data? Since MSD sheets, are legitimate Chemical documents, that makes them scientific enough don't you think?



Of course all ingredients are key. The improvements in Group II+ are largely why we see so much improvement in today's conventional oils, for example.

NO! I didn't make any claims about the base oils in M1. But I can you tell MSDS's are a far cry from knowing the formula of a motor oil. I don't pretend to know M1 formulations.
 
There is no doubt that Mobil 1 is the slipperiest product. However, this comes at a price: Tenacity is the lowest.
Nothing in life is for free.
Therefor you need a semi-semi-synthetic:
Mix of group 2, 3 and group 4.
For that you take something like a Mobil 1 AFE 0w30, and
just mix it with ST 5w30 full synthetic and PZ YB conventional, in equal proportions. ST gives excellent wear numbers, so does YB, and to make these oils even better, add an equal part of Mobil, for additional friction reduction. I have a good mind to try this and run it for 6000 miles and see what happens with a UOA.
 
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