Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 4 vs Continental ExtremeContact DWS06 Plus

OVERKILL said:
Normally I'd just immediately go with the Michelin, but the Conti's on the truck have been excellent, so I'm considering them for the Jeep as well. The Pirelli run flats are pretty much at the wear bars, so contemplating pulling the trigger on replacements before the winter, but may hold off until the spring.

Size is 295/45ZR20

Conti:
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Michelin:
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Both tires have the same tread depth.

Conti's are UTQG 560 A A, 80,000km tread wear warranty
PSAS's are UTQG 540 AA A, 70,000km tread wear warranty

The Michelin's are made in the USA and weigh 33lbs each
The Conti's are made in Romania and weigh 36lbs each

Somewhat surprised at the weight difference!

Now, the specs on the tires they are replacing:
Pirelli P Zero Run Flat
UTQG 220 AA A (they lasted about 20,000km)
Weight: 43lbs each


Price is not a huge factor, they are within $180 of each other for a set of 4 at my dealership, so it's not a considerable gap like it was with the truck.

Thoughts?
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I have the Michelins and no complaints. I even didn’t put my snow tires on, and got away with it 2 seasons.
 
edyvw said:
I have DWS 06+. Based on the performance of Michelin Pilot AS 3+ on Tiguan, I would go with Michelin compared to DWS. It is better rounded and while Conti does not fail in any discipline, on the contrary, has a ridiculous wet grip, two things bother me:
1. I can always feel tires on the steering wheel. They never balance as well as Michelin.
2. Soft sidewalls when doing some sharp cornering.
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Similar experience here (Pilot A/S3+ vs DWS under consideration by OP). If the previous version of the Michelins is an indicator of the A/S4, I’d give the Michelin tire a slight edge overall.

That said, the DWS is quieter and rides slightly better on my 2008 Audi A4 Avant. The A/S3+ is more communicative, and gives the “feel” of being is better control of the car in daily driving.

If the AS4 is improved over A/S3+ then it seems the better tire.

Can’t go wrong with either tire, however (IMHO).
 
OVERKILL said:
Yup, the PSS were absolutely phenomenal in the wet.
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I have these too, and remind myself I can take the bridge on ramp much faster than most, what am I doing going so slowly 😆

Ps they are mfg 2014. I’m not gonna throw them away when 6 yo
 
Quattro Pete said:
In my experience, all my summer tires were excellent in the rain. Certainly not any worse than all-seasons.
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Pifft the last summer tires you drove were Michelin Pilot Sports circa 2005. <jking>

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Kantaro said:
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=280

I'm sure you've seen this comparison already. The DWS06+ seem like the better tire overall, with better NVH at the cost of some steering feel. 3 lbs heavier is not great but still much lighter than the RFTs
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However, test does not tell you that DWS06 is very hard to balance and that Michelin generally always keep initial performance longer.
I have a DWS06; it is an exceptional tire. I would not buy it if it was bad tire, but I would give slight advantage to Pilot bcs. overall quality.
 
I live on the Ontario border and the Continental DWS 06 is my go-to tire on all my vehicles where an "All-Season" is called for. Works well in summer providing good performance and handling, and reasonable life. Also does well in winter for the snow and ice. Hard these days to warrant a dedicated snow tire in Michigan given these tires. Bear in mind as they age (last 25-30%) their snow and ice handling falls-off dramatically (see the wear marks), so caution is needed for those days when you venture out. They also become nosier.

I particularly like them for their comfortable ride that so many of the OEM tires don't provide. One thing I never liked was the harsh ride every run flat I have experienced has. Would never buy run flats when choosing.
 
Another vote for Continental. On my 2nd set on the Alfa, aside from tread life, I couldn’t be happier.
 
I installed the DWS Continentals on my Tucson turbo which I drove in a spirited fashion. They were amazing tires. I felt like the car was cornering in a track. And the ride was superb. Never had a balancing issue either.
 
Four Rings said:
Similar experience here (Pilot A/S3+ vs DWS under consideration by OP). If the previous version of the Michelins is an indicator of the A/S4, I’d give the Michelin tire a slight edge overall.

That said, the DWS is quieter and rides slightly better on my 2008 Audi A4 Avant. The A/S3+ is more communicative, and gives the “feel” of being is better control of the car in daily driving.

If the AS4 is improved over A/S3+ then it seems the better tire.

Can’t go wrong with either tire, however (IMHO).
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my experience as well...I had both tires on my CTS4 Sport Wagon...I think I felt a touch more road feel with the Michelins but I felt they started to lose their grip around 35K miles...the DWS-06 Plus had a slightly more cushy ride, did everything else as well as the Michelin's but exceeded the Michelin's in the wet and the snow...

currently have the DWS-06 Plus on my CTS V-Sport and the older DWS-06s on a Malibu 2.0T...pleased with them...

Bill
 
You guys are not making this easy, lol.

Here's what I'm up against, snapped this last night after driving 4hrs to drop my son and his girlfriend off at the cottage:
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This is the worst tire on the vehicle (currently right rear, they've been rotated 3x) but they all are pretty bad.
 
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