I have a 95 Nissan p/u I bought new. It's the 2.4 4 cylinder engine. I used Fram oil filters for years and always had a tick at highway speeds. A mechanic asked me what filter I used and told him Fram and he said to use the OEM filter. I started using the Nissan filter and the tick went away. I have used Nissan filters for the last couple oil changes and the tick hasn't returned. Using the OEM filter has worked for me but I'm wondering if anybody else has had a similar experience with an aftermarket oil filter versus an OEM. Thanks, Gman
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I'd use the Motorcraft FL839 on it,
they can be had on Rockauto for 2.36$ ech closeout!
they can be had on Rockauto for 2.36$ ech closeout!
While I can't say I've had an OEM filter CURE an issue, there are plenty of stories of Motorcraft filters preventing start-up rattle in Ford applications.
Well, I guess that's the same thing...YOU all knew what I meant...
Well, I guess that's the same thing...YOU all knew what I meant...
I stick with OE filters usually, but I am happy to use a quality filter like Bosch or Hengst, even Mann as they are also good.
In Europe filters are normally made by other companies and rebadged for main dealer sale, companies like EuroCarParts and German&Swedish buy these OE spec filters from the OE manufacturer and sell them on at lower prices, Halfords and similar shops sell own brand filters but I wouldn't touch them as nobody really knows who makes them.
Filter choice is not as wide in the UK.
In Europe filters are normally made by other companies and rebadged for main dealer sale, companies like EuroCarParts and German&Swedish buy these OE spec filters from the OE manufacturer and sell them on at lower prices, Halfords and similar shops sell own brand filters but I wouldn't touch them as nobody really knows who makes them.
Filter choice is not as wide in the UK.
I have seen more than a few Fords appreciate the OEM filter. I have also seen quite a few Hyundai and Kia vehicles that sounded like a Powerstroke 7.3 with aftermarket filters that did instantly go silent after switching to an OEM filter. I think in many cases it may be best to use the OEM filters from my experience. Since many are reasonably priced at the dealer there is really no reason not to use them. I guess it all depends on the owner. I have a neighbor that insists on using cheap filters in his Hyundai SantaFe and it sounds like a VW TDI. His choice, but I know it would be silent with the OEM filter if he would use one for the extra two bucks. Really not sure what he thinks he is saving if it may be starving a part of his engine and in the end it wears it out.
Originally Posted By: 71Chevyguy
I have seen more than a few Fords appreciate the OEM filter. I have also seen quite a few Hyundai and Kia vehicles that sounded like a Powerstroke 7.3 with aftermarket filters that did instantly go silent after switching to an OEM filter. I think in many cases it may be best to use the OEM filters from my experience. Since many are reasonably priced at the dealer there is really no reason not to use them. I guess it all depends on the owner. I have a neighbor that insists on using cheap filters in his Hyundai SantaFe and it sounds like a VW TDI. His choice, but I know it would be silent with the OEM filter if he would use one for the extra two bucks. Really not sure what he thinks he is saving if it may be starving a part of his engine and in the end it wears it out.
If I owned a GM Vehicle, with an ECORE designed filter, Id prolly find a Motorcraft Cross Referenced Filter...
Now Cartridge filters, thats pick your poison on bad build
I have seen more than a few Fords appreciate the OEM filter. I have also seen quite a few Hyundai and Kia vehicles that sounded like a Powerstroke 7.3 with aftermarket filters that did instantly go silent after switching to an OEM filter. I think in many cases it may be best to use the OEM filters from my experience. Since many are reasonably priced at the dealer there is really no reason not to use them. I guess it all depends on the owner. I have a neighbor that insists on using cheap filters in his Hyundai SantaFe and it sounds like a VW TDI. His choice, but I know it would be silent with the OEM filter if he would use one for the extra two bucks. Really not sure what he thinks he is saving if it may be starving a part of his engine and in the end it wears it out.
If I owned a GM Vehicle, with an ECORE designed filter, Id prolly find a Motorcraft Cross Referenced Filter...
Now Cartridge filters, thats pick your poison on bad build
Fortunately AC Delco's are also available in classics which are not e-cores. But none of my Chevy's have ever seemed to care a wit about the filter I used.
The Jeep is another matter entirely.
The Jeep is another matter entirely.
Originally Posted By: gman2304
I used Fram oil filters for years and always had a tick at highway speeds. I started using the Nissan filter and the tick went away.
Have you used anything other than Fram and OEM? It could just be the Fram and another aftermarket filter will work just fine. Which Frame BTW? OCOD?
I used Fram oil filters for years and always had a tick at highway speeds. I started using the Nissan filter and the tick went away.
Have you used anything other than Fram and OEM? It could just be the Fram and another aftermarket filter will work just fine. Which Frame BTW? OCOD?
barlowc, The Fram I used was the 3682...but I have used the NAPA gold but can't remember the number, with the same results as the Fram. I could hear it ticking occassionally in city driving but after driving at highway speeds, and exiting onto a ramp and coming to a stop, the engine would sound like a diesel at idle and for a while afterward while driving at city speeds. It is like the valve train was suffering from oil starvation. Switching back to the oem filter seems to have cured the problem. I have never had this problem with any other vehicle and have used aftermarket filters for years with no problems. Maybe this engine is finicky but I'll continue to use the oem filter on it if thats what it takes to keep it quiet. Thanks,Gman
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When cut open, Nissan oil filters these days look about as cheap as Fram.
Purolator Pure One or a Bosch would "in theory," be better.
I have the same engine in a car and I use Bosch (3400) or Pure One oil filters. I would use OEM (I did a few times years ago), but they look pretty cheap inside now. If you're certain it helps though, I'm sure they can probably hold up to a regular 4000 miles oil change though considering they're putting these on all the cars now.
When cut open, Nissan oil filters these days look about as cheap as Fram.
Purolator Pure One or a Bosch would "in theory," be better.
I have the same engine in a car and I use Bosch (3400) or Pure One oil filters. I would use OEM (I did a few times years ago), but they look pretty cheap inside now. If you're certain it helps though, I'm sure they can probably hold up to a regular 4000 miles oil change though considering they're putting these on all the cars now.
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A lot of people think OEM filters are just rebadged, but I can assure you that they are not. When a manufacturer wants a filter for a new engine series, they ask a filter company to design one specifically for that engine and service interval, they then sign an exclusive contract that does not allow the filter company to sell the same filter under another label. This means it is not possible to buy the exact filter from anyone other than the car manufacturer.
If an engine has been in production for some time, other good filter companies will design or modify a filter for the engine concerned, so what that means is that if you have a very common type of engine in your car that has been in production for some years, good non OEM filters are available and safe to use, BUT never use non OEM filters for new or less common engine types, because you run the risk the filter you are using was not designed for the engine, but just modified from another type and it may not perform as well as a real OEM filter.
Another point I noticed is that a lot of folks believe the advertising from the filter companies and fail to comprehend that the efficiency figures quoted are for a dirty filter, not a clean one and in reality it is very difficult to get information on the true performance of a new type of filter.
Originally Posted By: bigjl
I stick with OE filters usually, but I am happy to use a quality filter like Bosch or Hengst, even Mann as they are also good.
In Europe filters are normally made by other companies and rebadged for main dealer sale, companies like EuroCarParts and German&Swedish buy these OE spec filters from the OE manufacturer and sell them on at lower prices, Halfords and similar shops sell own brand filters but I wouldn't touch them as nobody really knows who makes them.
Filter choice is not as wide in the UK.
If an engine has been in production for some time, other good filter companies will design or modify a filter for the engine concerned, so what that means is that if you have a very common type of engine in your car that has been in production for some years, good non OEM filters are available and safe to use, BUT never use non OEM filters for new or less common engine types, because you run the risk the filter you are using was not designed for the engine, but just modified from another type and it may not perform as well as a real OEM filter.
Another point I noticed is that a lot of folks believe the advertising from the filter companies and fail to comprehend that the efficiency figures quoted are for a dirty filter, not a clean one and in reality it is very difficult to get information on the true performance of a new type of filter.
Originally Posted By: bigjl
I stick with OE filters usually, but I am happy to use a quality filter like Bosch or Hengst, even Mann as they are also good.
In Europe filters are normally made by other companies and rebadged for main dealer sale, companies like EuroCarParts and German&Swedish buy these OE spec filters from the OE manufacturer and sell them on at lower prices, Halfords and similar shops sell own brand filters but I wouldn't touch them as nobody really knows who makes them.
Filter choice is not as wide in the UK.
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