Marly Black Gold Carat S/Synergy/Gold S1

[vwoom]

Anyone heard of/used these Belgian synthetic oils?..

http://www.marly.com/en/index.htm

SPECIFICATIONS

SAE 5W/40
API SJ/CF/EC (Energy Conserving)
ACEA ACEA A3-98/B3-98
VOLKSWAGEN VW 502.00 500.00 505.00
BMW
PORSCHE
MERCEDES 229.1

CHARACTERISTICS

Density @ 15°C ASTM D 4052 Kg/m3 859
Viscosity @ -25°C ASTM D 2602 cP 3330
Viscosity @ 40°C ASTM D 445 cSt 90
Viscosity @ 100°C ASTM D 445 cSt 14,0
Viscosity Index ASTM D 2270 170
Poor Point ASTM D 97 °C -42
TBN ASTM D 2896 g KOH/kg 8,8
Falsh Point ASTM D 92 °C 235
Sulphated Ashes ASTM D 874 masse % 1,1
NOACK Volatility masse % 7,8

SPECIFICATIONS

SAE 0W/40
API SJ/CF
ACEA ACEA A3-98/B3-98
VOLKSWAGEN VW 502.00
BMW
PORSCHE
MERCEDES 229.1

CHARACTERISTICS

Density @ 15°C ASTM D 4052 Kg/m3 865
Viscosity @ -25°C ASTM D 2602 cP 3050
Viscosity @ 40°C ASTM D 445 cSt 75
Viscosity @ 100°C ASTM D 445 cSt 13,6
Viscosity index ASTM D 2270 187
Poor Point ASTM D 97 °C -54
TBN ASTM D 2896 g KOH/kg 9,0
Flash Point ASTM D 92 °C 225
Sulphated ashes ASTM D 874 masse % 1,1
NOACK Volatility masse % 12,7

They also have a non-graphite Marly Gold S1 5W40:

SPECIFICATIONS
SAE 5W/40
API SJ/CF/EC (Energy Conserving)
ACEA ACEA A3-98/B3-98
VOLKSWAGEN VW 502.00 500.00 505.00
BMW
PORSCHE
MERCEDES 229.1

CHARACTERISTICS
Density @ 15°C ASTM D 4052 Kg/m3 859
Viscosity @ -25°C ASTM D 2602 cP 3330
Viscosity @ 40°C ASTM D 445 cSt 90
Viscosity @ 100°C ASTM D 445 cSt 14,0
Viscosity Index ASTM D 2270 170
Poor Point ASTM D 97 °C -42
TBN ASTM D 2896 g KOH/kg 8,8
Flash Point ASTM D 92 °C 235
Sulphated ashes ASTM D 874 masse % 1,1
NOACK Volatility masse % 7,8
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How good are these oils?

Is it true that colloidal graphite in motor oil is

to the engine...

 

[deuginthesky]

quote:

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Originally posted by vwoom:
Anyone heard of/used these Belgian synthetic oils?..

http://www.marly.com/en/index.htm

SPECIFICATIONS

SAE 5W/40
API SJ/CF/EC (Energy Conserving)
ACEA ACEA A3-98/B3-98
VOLKSWAGEN VW 502.00 500.00 505.00
BMW
PORSCHE
MERCEDES 229.1

CHARACTERISTICS

Density @ 15°C ASTM D 4052 Kg/m3 859
Viscosity @ -25°C ASTM D 2602 cP 3330
Viscosity @ 40°C ASTM D 445 cSt 90
Viscosity @ 100°C ASTM D 445 cSt 14,0
Viscosity Index ASTM D 2270 170
Poor Point ASTM D 97 °C -42
TBN ASTM D 2896 g KOH/kg 8,8
Falsh Point ASTM D 92 °C 235
Sulphated Ashes ASTM D 874 masse % 1,1
NOACK Volatility masse % 7,8

SPECIFICATIONS

SAE 0W/40
API SJ/CF
ACEA ACEA A3-98/B3-98
VOLKSWAGEN VW 502.00
BMW
PORSCHE
MERCEDES 229.1

CHARACTERISTICS

Density @ 15°C ASTM D 4052 Kg/m3 865
Viscosity @ -25°C ASTM D 2602 cP 3050
Viscosity @ 40°C ASTM D 445 cSt 75
Viscosity @ 100°C ASTM D 445 cSt 13,6
Viscosity index ASTM D 2270 187
Poor Point ASTM D 97 °C -54
TBN ASTM D 2896 g KOH/kg 9,0
Flash Point ASTM D 92 °C 225
Sulphated ashes ASTM D 874 masse % 1,1
NOACK Volatility masse % 12,7

They also have a non-graphite Marly Gold S1 5W40:

SPECIFICATIONS
SAE 5W/40
API SJ/CF/EC (Energy Conserving)
ACEA ACEA A3-98/B3-98
VOLKSWAGEN VW 502.00 500.00 505.00
BMW
PORSCHE
MERCEDES 229.1

CHARACTERISTICS
Density @ 15°C ASTM D 4052 Kg/m3 859
Viscosity @ -25°C ASTM D 2602 cP 3330
Viscosity @ 40°C ASTM D 445 cSt 90
Viscosity @ 100°C ASTM D 445 cSt 14,0
Viscosity Index ASTM D 2270 170
Poor Point ASTM D 97 °C -42
TBN ASTM D 2896 g KOH/kg 8,8
Flash Point ASTM D 92 °C 235
Sulphated ashes ASTM D 874 masse % 1,1
NOACK Volatility masse % 7,8
--------
How good are these oils?

Is it true that colloidal graphite in motor oil is

to the engine...

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Your manufacturer specifications description is old:

Here are the real ones these oils match (website is old):

Carat-S 5W40:
API SL/CF
ACEA A3/B3
VW 502.00/505.00
MB 229.3
BMW LL (ready for 30 000kms).

This oil has been used right from the shell in F3000 racing, with KTR-Witmeur team, driver was Bas Leinders.

I've used it on a 1372cc turbocharged engine with 136hp and 207Nm torque, had almost no oil consomption with an OCI of 7 500kms, many times above 6000 RPM and mad driving (sometimes 120+ MPH).

Synergy 0W40:
API SL/CF
ACEA A3/B4
VW 502.00/505.00/503.01
BMW LL-98
Porsche approved


Gold S1 5W40:
API SL/CF
ACEA A3/B3
VW 502.00/505.00
BMW LL
MB 229.3


They are not group III oil based.


The 0W40 Synergy is being replaced by Zenox 0W40, using H-BN (céramic particles) and matching the new ACEA specifications (ACEA A3/B4/C3), MB 229.31, BMW LL-04, VW 503.01.


The maker is a specialist of solid lubrification, graphite particles are 1µ or less, H-BN particles are smaller.

 

[vwoom]

Yeah, noticed the old SJ rating and all.

So can you post the new info link here..thx

 

[deuginthesky]

I have the paper infos, but you'll find current specs them on this site (russian dealer):

http://www.marlyoil.ru/product/marlym.html


The Zenox 0W40 is too recent to be on their site, it is just being launched.


The Bio Carat seems to be particularly praised among russian rallies competitors.

No dealer outside Europe (I include Russia in the large understanding of Europe).