not sure which forum this goes in? but anyway...\
are magnetic drain plugs worth it? I don't see how it would necessarily hurt anything.
are magnetic drain plugs worth it? I don't see how it would necessarily hurt anything.
Magnetic Drain Plug
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Whatever plug you use...DON'T PURCHASE A SUPERPLUG!!!!!I had a VERY unpleasant experience with SuperPlug. They are over priced and will not refund your cost if you want to return it!!!
I didn't like to two-piece nature of the plug that used a cheap washer as the flang for the oil plug gasket. It doesn't look like a two piece plug/flange on their website....but it is!
I didn't like to two-piece nature of the plug that used a cheap washer as the flang for the oil plug gasket. It doesn't look like a two piece plug/flange on their website....but it is!
Seems like a good idea to me; I started using them a long time ago. Every time I change the oil it has a layer of "metal dust".
I was actually checking ou superplug, but dang they are like $30 after shipping.
is this any good...
$22 shipped tho
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=46098&item=2478160837&rd=1
is this any good...
$22 shipped tho
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=46098&item=2478160837&rd=1
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Pep Boys ..Advance Auto ..they all got them. About $6 last time I bought one ..admittedly several years ago. It should pull out any ferrous (I think that's the term) material out of the oil. I don't think a stronger magnet does it any better. All the oil should pass that point in the pan some time or another.
Naturally, I'm open to opposing points of view.
Naturally, I'm open to opposing points of view.
I was going to recommend a SuperPlug but mulepacker may have an issue with that.
I too have heard about SuperPlug's poor customer service and SLOOOOOW response time but I ordered from them anyway. My order took a month to receive and the only communication I got from them was the order confirmation a couple of days after I placed the order. The engine oil drain plug I received was correct but the trans drain plug was not. I returned it nearly 3 weeks ago and I haven't heard from them since.
So anyway, I replaced my car's standard drain plug with a SuperPlug and I thought it looked well made. Agreed, it is kinda pricey but I figured it's a good one time buy. The magnet is STRONG; more powerful than other magnetic drain plugs I've seen.
seotaji, IIRC you have an Acura 3.2TL, right? The SuperPlug you want for your car is p/n SP-235. That's the one I put on my 2000 Acura 3.2TL. The plug they sent me for the trans was p/n SP-210 and it's incorrect, it's 1 1/2" long and uses a 14mm thread, the stock trans plug is 1 1/4" long and uses an 18mm thread.
If
, and when
, they send me the correct trans plug, I'll post the p/n FYI.
I too have heard about SuperPlug's poor customer service and SLOOOOOW response time but I ordered from them anyway. My order took a month to receive and the only communication I got from them was the order confirmation a couple of days after I placed the order. The engine oil drain plug I received was correct but the trans drain plug was not. I returned it nearly 3 weeks ago and I haven't heard from them since.
So anyway, I replaced my car's standard drain plug with a SuperPlug and I thought it looked well made. Agreed, it is kinda pricey but I figured it's a good one time buy. The magnet is STRONG; more powerful than other magnetic drain plugs I've seen.
seotaji, IIRC you have an Acura 3.2TL, right? The SuperPlug you want for your car is p/n SP-235. That's the one I put on my 2000 Acura 3.2TL. The plug they sent me for the trans was p/n SP-210 and it's incorrect, it's 1 1/2" long and uses a 14mm thread, the stock trans plug is 1 1/4" long and uses an 18mm thread.
If
Has anyone looked at these, site sponsor and good service from the Company:
http://www.emergingent.com/magnefine/force_field.htm
http://www.emergingent.com/magnefine/force_field.htm
I don't know how good having a magnetic plug over a normal one is. I mean all it is doing is collecting metal particles before it goes through the filter. The filter should catch all metal particles each pass around. It is just getting it before the filter does. The filter should catch it all if it had a chance to before the magnet would get it. Does that kinda make sense?
Go to http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=24;t=000946#000000 and scroll down to a post by DavoNF. That is what I like about this board. Mixed in with the opinions is some good, hard data. Naturally I would like to see data from a few more.
I like the idea of magnetic drain plugs, but I'd avoid Superplug like the plague. I've been trying for almost 2 months to get them to replace an incorrect sized plug they sent me. No luck. "Larry" the guy I have to talk to about it is never in, and when I have managed to reach him he keeps telling me it will get take care of but it never does.
Good product, crappy company...
Good product, crappy company...
I'm one of the folks in charge of advertising on another automotive-related site and while I was super-happy to land Auto-RX as a sponsor, I did not recommend SuperPlug because of the slow delivery and sending wrong sized stuff.
[ May 18, 2004, 02:28 PM: Message edited by: JohnnyO ]
Things must have gone south with the Superplug company.When I dealt with them a year or so ago the service was great and I got everything I needed.Both my plugs were what I ordered, but one of the tips on one of them was flaking off the magnet.I called them up and another replacement was sent promptly..and I live in Canada...they even said to keep the other one...so I have three for the price of two...by the way a metal/rubber washer can be bought at any auto parts store for peanuts..purchased ten for around $4.00 at Canadian Tire...the Superplug is a well made piece..have had NO problems with them
It's a sideline to them I think. They answer the phone "Hole Specialists" or something to that effect. It's really too bad because the ones I've seen are really well made...quote:
Originally posted by JohnnyO:
I sort of have the feeling it's run by a handful of people out of their garage. Knowing a thing or two about manufacturing and small business, chances are they don't stock a lot of inventory, rather they wait until they have orders for a couple dozen in a particular size and then make a run of them. Just an educated guess on my part.
I'm one of the folks in charge of advertising on another automotive-related site and while I was super-happy to land Auto-RX as a sponsor, I did not recommend SuperPlug because of the slow delivery and sending wrong sized stuff.
A year or so ago I placed an order from
http://www.cgenterprises.com
for several drain plugs and metal/rubber gaskets.
There prices are reasonable, and have had no problems witht he drain plugs, other than that the magnets look a little on the small side. They are a Canadian company, and I go my order in about 7 days. Credit car company figured out the exchange rate.
http://www.cgenterprises.com
for several drain plugs and metal/rubber gaskets.
There prices are reasonable, and have had no problems witht he drain plugs, other than that the magnets look a little on the small side. They are a Canadian company, and I go my order in about 7 days. Credit car company figured out the exchange rate.
labman nice link, explains a question I have had for a wile
I put a super plug on my new truck in late '01, at the time their customer service was very good, called several times to sort out witch size they always picked up the phone and were helpful, and it shipped fast, have heard many complaints since then on this board about poor customer service,
on the new motor it caught a lot of mill shavings and garbage and other visible pieces of waer, as it aged (50k on the clock) there was less material and the particles were finer, now it is just gray/black dust with a few barely individually visible bits stuck to the end
it is a very well made plug but unfortunately after 2 years the plug in no where near as strong as when new, from this I am going to guess they use Neodymium magnets, witch are the strongest permanent magnets and medium priced but are degrade quickly when heated
been reading and Samarium Cobalt (SmCo) magnets are much more resilient in higher temps (like an oil pan) but are more expensive are not quite as strong but close, using these would have killed super plugs margin
last oil change I measured the bore of the drain hole and checked for obstructions in the area (found none) I am going to order a 3/8" dia. High temp Disk magnet and JBweld it to my stock drain plug will be under $10
gtm245, oil filters only catch particles over about 35 micron, it is debatable how small a particle has to be to not cause wear but most agree a particle much smaller than 35 can cause wear, this particle will circulate unhampered until you change your oil, also your oil pump and relief valve have to eat this full sized stuff unfiltered, the majority of the wearing parts in an engine are steel or iron
[ May 19, 2004, 12:58 AM: Message edited by: RavenTai ]
I put a super plug on my new truck in late '01, at the time their customer service was very good, called several times to sort out witch size they always picked up the phone and were helpful, and it shipped fast, have heard many complaints since then on this board about poor customer service,
on the new motor it caught a lot of mill shavings and garbage and other visible pieces of waer, as it aged (50k on the clock) there was less material and the particles were finer, now it is just gray/black dust with a few barely individually visible bits stuck to the end
it is a very well made plug but unfortunately after 2 years the plug in no where near as strong as when new, from this I am going to guess they use Neodymium magnets, witch are the strongest permanent magnets and medium priced but are degrade quickly when heated
been reading and Samarium Cobalt (SmCo) magnets are much more resilient in higher temps (like an oil pan) but are more expensive are not quite as strong but close, using these would have killed super plugs margin
last oil change I measured the bore of the drain hole and checked for obstructions in the area (found none) I am going to order a 3/8" dia. High temp Disk magnet and JBweld it to my stock drain plug will be under $10
gtm245, oil filters only catch particles over about 35 micron, it is debatable how small a particle has to be to not cause wear but most agree a particle much smaller than 35 can cause wear, this particle will circulate unhampered until you change your oil, also your oil pump and relief valve have to eat this full sized stuff unfiltered, the majority of the wearing parts in an engine are steel or iron
[ May 19, 2004, 12:58 AM: Message edited by: RavenTai ]
got my plug from O Reilly's for 7 bucks. Works like a charm. Just a pain in the *** to get back into the drain hole cause it likes to stick to the oil pan
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