Made in America

[artificialist]

Originally Posted By: cousincletus
I saw the window sticker of a new Chevy truck and was disappointed that the parts content was only 75%. Just 2 years ago it was 90%. My Colorado truck was only 77%. NAFTA and Chinese free trade agreements are killing our manufacturing. All the stimulus money in the world isn't going to help anything unless we change our trade policies to benefit the US.

Cuba has severe restrictions on trade, and yet very little good news is ever heard about it.

 

[ksJoe]

Originally Posted By: artificialist
Cuba has severe restrictions on trade, and yet very little good news is ever heard about it.


What are you talking about? The Cubans are so excited to come tell us how great their economy is, they're swimming over to spread the word!

 

[cousincletus]

Originally Posted By: benjamming
Originally Posted By: mstrjon32
If you click the link and scroll down the page, you'll see that the Ford Taurus has the highest domestic-parts content, at 90%. The Camry doesn't even make their top-10 list (though the Sienna is 3rd).


I live in the US. I have never seen a domestic parts content sticker on an automobile. Where did you see this domestic parts content sticker?


It should be on the window of every new car since the mid-1990's. Sometimes it's a separate sticker and sometimes (GM) it's on the window sticker. Sometimes small print.

 

[cousincletus]

Originally Posted By: artificialist
Originally Posted By: cousincletus
I saw the window sticker of a new Chevy truck and was disappointed that the parts content was only 75%. Just 2 years ago it was 90%. My Colorado truck was only 77%. NAFTA and Chinese free trade agreements are killing our manufacturing. All the stimulus money in the world isn't going to help anything unless we change our trade policies to benefit the US.

Cuba has severe restrictions on trade, and yet very little good news is ever heard about it.


I'm not saying to place severe restrictions on trade, but to allow our manufacturing to compete.

 

[benjamming]

Originally Posted By: cousincletus
Originally Posted By: benjamming
Originally Posted By: mstrjon32
If you click the link and scroll down the page, you'll see that the Ford Taurus has the highest domestic-parts content, at 90%. The Camry doesn't even make their top-10 list (though the Sienna is 3rd).


I live in the US. I have never seen a domestic parts content sticker on an automobile. Where did you see this domestic parts content sticker?


It should be on the window of every new car since the mid-1990's. Sometimes it's a separate sticker and sometimes (GM) it's on the window sticker. Sometimes small print.


Nope. That sticker shows the North American Union content, not US content. It does show place of final assembly (where they put the sticker on the window

).

 

[Tempest]

Quote:
I'm not saying to place severe restrictions on trade, but to allow our manufacturing to compete.

Then you should be all for getting rid of the Unions and lower taxes and less regulations.

 

[cousincletus]

Originally Posted By: Tempest
Quote:
I'm not saying to place severe restrictions on trade, but to allow our manufacturing to compete.

Then you should be all for getting rid of the Unions and lower taxes and less regulations.


Isn't that what wrecked this country? Tax breaks for rich people (at the expense of the middle class), union membership at an all time low, and a sense of lawlessness caused by fewer regulations. Yep, that worked real well.

 

[Tempest]

NO. The middle class was shrinking because people were moving up, total compensation has been going up as union membership has been going down, and regulations forced banking institutions to make loans under threat of prosecution and forced higher costs on businesses.

If regulations are so good, why does the government have to give the car companies loans in order meet CAFE?

 

[talker]

dont you think we are starting to talk politics?





Remember board rules!

 

[CROWNVIC4LIFE]

Originally Posted By: ksJoe
Originally Posted By: artificialist
Cuba has severe restrictions on trade, and yet very little good news is ever heard about it.


What are you talking about? The Cubans are so excited to come tell us how great their economy is, they're swimming over to spread the word!


The Cubans come into Miami almost everyday of the week on their Rickety Boats or on the Go Fast Boats.

Either way they pay Big Bucks to get here.

 

[Ben99GT]

Originally Posted By: Samilcar
Originally Posted By: Ben99GT
Originally Posted By: javacontour
On the other hand, companies like Toyota are investing MORE capital in the US.


You mean Toyota, the same company that has stated that they do not plan to open any new plants in the US after the MS plant and plans to focus on Japanese manufacturing for further growth?

The same Toyota that blamed their slipping quality on an over reliance on US assembly plants? I just want to make sure we are talking about the same Toyota here.

http://www.reuters.com/article/tnBasicIndustries-SP/idUST1743020070620



http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080&sid=aKdSZaIid93M

Yep, same Toyota that just this morning reported it's spending a half billion dollars to expand its Princeton, Indiana plant.

It's a shame they're spending that much money and putting that much trust in those "slipshod" American workers.

$5.5 billion Ford plant renovation: http://www.autos-fans.cn/2009/05/Ford-tr...-the-launch-of/
$200 million Ford plan renovation: http://www.wavy.com/dpp/news/va_bus_ap_ford_plant_renovations_ky_20090423

That's just from the last couple months. Now who is investing more in those "slipshod" American workers?

The clear answer is the same company that has always been doing so. Ford.

PS. I don't recall Ford ever blaming American manufacturing for any quality issues. Toyota certainly has hinted at just that...publicly.

 

[cousincletus]

Originally Posted By: Tempest
NO. The middle class was shrinking because people were moving up, total compensation has been going up as union membership has been going down, and regulations forced banking institutions to make loans under threat of prosecution and forced higher costs on businesses.

If regulations are so good, why does the government have to give the car companies loans in order meet CAFE?


Where are you getting your information from? I don't think there is anyone in this country who doesn't know at least one person who has been laid off or cut back.

 

[labman]

Originally Posted By: Tempest
NO. The middle class was shrinking because people were moving up, total compensation has been going up as union membership has been going down, and regulations forced banking institutions to make loans under threat of prosecution and forced higher costs on businesses.

If regulations are so good, why does the government have to give the car companies loans in order meet CAFE?


+1

Yes, Bush was a friend of the rich. Government statistics show they increased dramatically during his term as the middle class moved up.

Our economy fell apart because the heavy regulations didn't do their job, just as more won't either.

 

[brianl703]

Originally Posted By: Ben99GT

PS. I don't recall Ford ever blaming American manufacturing for any quality issues. Toyota certainly has hinted at just that...publicly.

The [censored] wiring harnesses that Ford used in the Contour were made by Yazaki, a Japanese company. Ford would have been better off with Delphi harnesses.

 

[brianl703]

Originally Posted By: cousincletus
Where are you getting your information from? I don't think there is anyone in this country who doesn't know at least one person who has been laid off or cut back.


I think much of that is the result of the subprime mortgage mess.

The best quote I ever heard--2 years ago-- "The subprime slime is oozing".

Some people should just rent. That simple.

 

[Samilcar]

Originally Posted By: Ben99GT


PS. I don't recall Ford ever blaming American manufacturing for any quality issues. Toyota certainly has hinted at just that...publicly.

I'm not saying this isn't true, but I can't find any mention of Toyota blaming their American workers for quality problems. Can you point me in the right direction with a link?

 

[brianl703]

I haven't paid much attention to Toyota's PR, but there have been some Toyota fanboize on here (and elsewhere) who had suggested as much with the balljoint recall. Oh, were they ever disappointed when the recall data from the FedGov showed where the balljoints were made...

And yes, you ARE a Toyota fanboi when the first thought you have about a Toyota recall is that the affected parts must have been made in the USA. Sorry to break it to ya.

 

[PT1]

Originally Posted By: cousincletus
I saw the window sticker of a new Chevy truck and was disappointed that the parts content was only 75%. Just 2 years ago it was 90%. My Colorado truck was only 77%. NAFTA and Chinese free trade agreements are killing our manufacturing. All the stimulus money in the world isn't going to help anything unless we change our trade policies to benefit the US.


Uh hate to bring this up...but the UAW supports the guys who signed NAFTA....

 

[brianl703]

Not all of them.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1993/roll575.xml

 

[labman]

I used to work for a supplier to the wiring harness business. I shipped the specialty vinyl compound for molding certain plugs all over the world. Better for America to use wiring harnesses assembled in Mexico from American made components under NAFTA than ones from elsewhere.