M1 0w30 afe vs PUP 5w30
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PUP is a great oil, with excellent cold flow properties:
http://www.pennzoil.com/en_ca/products/f...tinum-5W-30.pdf
I don't believe you would be gaining much of anything going with AFE. Use what you have and then switch if you wish.
http://www.pennzoil.com/en_ca/products/f...tinum-5W-30.pdf
I don't believe you would be gaining much of anything going with AFE. Use what you have and then switch if you wish.
IF you beleive the MSDS sheet..... it lists 10-20% PAO and 20-30% GTL and 30-40% normal GIII.
Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: FZ1
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Canadian winter, AFE 0w30.
This^^^^. Run the 5-30 in the warmer months
M1 0-30 will perform very well year round in any temps.
He already has the PUP 5-30. Just sayin' it's better to run the 5-30 in the "warmer" months in Canada till he uses up the 5-30 stash.
Originally Posted By: FZ1
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Canadian winter, AFE 0w30.
This^^^^. Run the 5-30 in the warmer months
M1 0-30 will perform very well year round in any temps.
He already has the PUP 5-30. Just sayin' it's better to run the 5-30 in the "warmer" months in Canada till he uses up the 5-30 stash.
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
M1?
Don't you want a synthetic in a TT V6?
Not a VM laden semi?
AFE has a good slug of PAO.
Are you sure?
The SDS only shows 20-30% in the "superior" 5w30EP - not that the sds is accurate TODAY but its all we got on paper.
Ill go hunting. Regardless they barely make a Semisynthetic or technosynthese in Europe
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
M1?
Don't you want a synthetic in a TT V6?
Not a VM laden semi?
AFE has a good slug of PAO.
Are you sure?
The SDS only shows 20-30% in the "superior" 5w30EP - not that the sds is accurate TODAY but its all we got on paper.
Ill go hunting. Regardless they barely make a Semisynthetic or technosynthese in Europe
Here it is:
10-20 pao and 30-40 grpIII Visom from hard paraffin wax
:
SECTION 3 COMPOSITION / INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS
This material is defined as a mixture.
Hazardous Substance(s) or Complex Substance(s) required for disclosure
Name CAS#
Concentration*
GHS Hazard Codes
1-DECENE, HOMOPOLYMER HYDROGENATED 68037-01-4 10 - < 20% H304
DISTILLATES, HEAVY, C18-50 - BRANCHED, CYCLIC
AND LINEAR
848301-69-9 20 - < 30% H304
SEVERELY HYDROTREATED HEAVY PARAFFINIC
DISTILLATE
64742-54-7 30 - < 40% H304
SOLVENT DEWAXED HEAVY PARAFFINIC DISTILLATE 64742-65-0 1 - < 5% H304
* All concentrations are percent by weight unless material is a gas. Gas concentrations are in percent by volume.
As per paragraph (i) of 29 CFR 1910.1200, formulation is considered a trade secret and specific chemical identity and
exact percentage (concentration) of composition may have been withheld. Specific chemical identity and exact
percentage composition will be provided to health professionals, employees, or designated representatives in
accordance with applicable provisions of paragraph (i).
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10-20 pao and 30-40 grpIII Visom from hard paraffin wax
:
SECTION 3 COMPOSITION / INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS
This material is defined as a mixture.
Hazardous Substance(s) or Complex Substance(s) required for disclosure
Name CAS#
Concentration*
GHS Hazard Codes
1-DECENE, HOMOPOLYMER HYDROGENATED 68037-01-4 10 - < 20% H304
DISTILLATES, HEAVY, C18-50 - BRANCHED, CYCLIC
AND LINEAR
848301-69-9 20 - < 30% H304
SEVERELY HYDROTREATED HEAVY PARAFFINIC
DISTILLATE
64742-54-7 30 - < 40% H304
SOLVENT DEWAXED HEAVY PARAFFINIC DISTILLATE 64742-65-0 1 - < 5% H304
* All concentrations are percent by weight unless material is a gas. Gas concentrations are in percent by volume.
As per paragraph (i) of 29 CFR 1910.1200, formulation is considered a trade secret and specific chemical identity and
exact percentage (concentration) of composition may have been withheld. Specific chemical identity and exact
percentage composition will be provided to health professionals, employees, or designated representatives in
accordance with applicable provisions of paragraph (i).
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Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Here it is:
10-20 pao and 30-40 grpIII Visom from hard paraffin wax
:
SECTION 3 COMPOSITION / INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS
This material is defined as a mixture.
Hazardous Substance(s) or Complex Substance(s) required for disclosure
Name _________________________________________CAS#_______Concentration
1-DECENE, HOMOPOLYMER HYDROGENATED ____________68037-01-4 10 - < 20%
DISTILLATES, HEAVY, C18-50 ________________________848301-69-9 20 - < 30%
SEVERELY HYDROTREATED HEAVY PARAFFINIC DISTILLATE 64742-54-7 30 - < 40%
SOLVENT DEWAXED HEAVY PARAFFINIC DISTILLATE ______64742-65-0 1 - < 5%
10-20% PAO I would indeed consider a "good slug" and I'm sure is significantly more than anything you are running presently, no? Seems a tad hypocritical.
Here it is:
10-20 pao and 30-40 grpIII Visom from hard paraffin wax
:
SECTION 3 COMPOSITION / INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS
This material is defined as a mixture.
Hazardous Substance(s) or Complex Substance(s) required for disclosure
Name _________________________________________CAS#_______Concentration
1-DECENE, HOMOPOLYMER HYDROGENATED ____________68037-01-4 10 - < 20%
DISTILLATES, HEAVY, C18-50 ________________________848301-69-9 20 - < 30%
SEVERELY HYDROTREATED HEAVY PARAFFINIC DISTILLATE 64742-54-7 30 - < 40%
SOLVENT DEWAXED HEAVY PARAFFINIC DISTILLATE ______64742-65-0 1 - < 5%
10-20% PAO I would indeed consider a "good slug" and I'm sure is significantly more than anything you are running presently, no? Seems a tad hypocritical.
It just because the general populace hold MoB-Hill ONE in the highest regard. Good specs but Meh or blecchh oil in situ. Just my experience.
I was no Castrol fan of late until the new Magnatec came out.
QSUD may be "better"
Magnatec gives my Nissan explosive** power for you power guys.
but QSUD 10w30 non Dexos would be my GENERAL recommendation for a 5w30.
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**All relative as far as 175 lb-ft in a 3700lb AWD vehicle fully laden.
I was no Castrol fan of late until the new Magnatec came out.
QSUD may be "better"
Magnatec gives my Nissan explosive** power for you power guys.
but QSUD 10w30 non Dexos would be my GENERAL recommendation for a 5w30.
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**All relative as far as 175 lb-ft in a 3700lb AWD vehicle fully laden.
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QSUD 10W30 in a thread started by a guy in Canada who is considering M1 0W30 AFE vs. PUP 5W30???
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Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
It just because the general populace hold MoB-Hill ONE in the highest regard. Good specs but Meh or blecchh oil in situ. Just my experience.
Yes, because generally their oils perform well and are well certified. Of course how they are based varies significantly, with I believe the EP 0w-20 having the highest level of PAO of the bunch.
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
I was no Castrol fan of late until the new Magnatec came out.
I'm not much of one either, however their 0w-40 has great cold performance specs and they recommend it for SRT applications, which is why I am using it. Seems to be a bit of a better damper on start-up noise when compared to the SOPUS SRT 0w-40, but that may be in part due to filter selection this time around as well. Regardless, I'm more inclined to use a Euro lube with a wide range of difficult to obtain approvals and low NOACK to the SRT product, which has higher NOACK and only approved by Chrysler.
It just because the general populace hold MoB-Hill ONE in the highest regard. Good specs but Meh or blecchh oil in situ. Just my experience.
Yes, because generally their oils perform well and are well certified. Of course how they are based varies significantly, with I believe the EP 0w-20 having the highest level of PAO of the bunch.
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
I was no Castrol fan of late until the new Magnatec came out.
I'm not much of one either, however their 0w-40 has great cold performance specs and they recommend it for SRT applications, which is why I am using it. Seems to be a bit of a better damper on start-up noise when compared to the SOPUS SRT 0w-40, but that may be in part due to filter selection this time around as well. Regardless, I'm more inclined to use a Euro lube with a wide range of difficult to obtain approvals and low NOACK to the SRT product, which has higher NOACK and only approved by Chrysler.
One is a lot easier to find than the other
Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
QSUD 10W30 in a thread started by a guy in Canada who is considering M1 0W30 AFE vs. PUP 5W30???
IIRC the 10w30 has a 15deg lower ( colder) wax point or gelation point. Its just the Sweetest oil now in the QSUD lineup.
Shhhh don't tell everyone.
I do under stand your concern with the W rating.
I don't know if the OP uses a block heater regularly at work and home.
Pro'ly should on that motor.
QSUD 10W30 in a thread started by a guy in Canada who is considering M1 0W30 AFE vs. PUP 5W30???
IIRC the 10w30 has a 15deg lower ( colder) wax point or gelation point. Its just the Sweetest oil now in the QSUD lineup.
Shhhh don't tell everyone.
I do under stand your concern with the W rating.
I don't know if the OP uses a block heater regularly at work and home.
Pro'ly should on that motor.
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