M1 0w20 ep Pour Point: -45°C (-49°f)

[merconvvv]

I found this from sds data sheet.
Not minus 54 c as reported elsewhere. Less additives.
Not complaining as it is one heck of oil.
Afraid it might be permanently replaced with 0w20 annual protection. Walmart already has tons of ap at 50 bucks for 5 quart jug. Don't see why they would have a 15k and 20k mile oil at same time. I don't see much ep on walmart shelves anymore. I stocked up on ep

 

[jongies3]

I don't see the point of AP at all, just because it "can" last 5000 miles longer than EP for almost triple the price of EP? Whoopty frickin' doo!

I would never pay $50 for a jug of that stuff nor would I ever run my oil half that long either because of the environment I live in is very tough on oil.

 

[CT8]

It will be interesting to see how the oil moves [sells].

 

[4WD]

Like this:

 

[merconvvv]

Haha u must shop at my walmart.
Exactly what I saw!

 

[4WD]

Just yesterday I was wondering if this is not a Walmart Roll Back plan ...
Anyone spot M1 AP outside of Walmart ?

 

[edyvw]

Originally Posted By: jongies3
I don't see the point of AP at all, just because it "can" last 5000 miles longer than EP for almost triple the price of EP? Whoopty frickin' doo!

I would never pay $50 for a jug of that stuff nor would I ever run my oil half that long either because of the environment I live in is very tough on oil.

If it was meeting ACEA A5/B5 then it would be different story.

 

[jongies3]

Originally Posted By: edyvw
Originally Posted By: jongies3
I don't see the point of AP at all, just because it "can" last 5000 miles longer than EP for almost triple the price of EP? Whoopty frickin' doo!

I would never pay $50 for a jug of that stuff nor would I ever run my oil half that long either because of the environment I live in is very tough on oil.

If it was meeting ACEA A5/B5 then it would be different story.

Yep!

 

[Nickdfresh]

Originally Posted By: merconvvv
I found this from sds data sheet.
Not minus 54 c as reported elsewhere. Less additives.
Not complaining as it is one heck of oil.
Afraid it might be permanently replaced with 0w20 annual protection. Walmart already has tons of ap at 50 bucks for 5 quart jug. Don't see why they would have a 15k and 20k mile oil at same time. I don't see much ep on walmart shelves anymore. I stocked up on ep

It is -54C and is over 70% Group IV/V...

 

[merconvvv]

Sds says it's not minus 54 c.
60 to 70 percent group iv/v.

 

[Vuflanovsky]

Did anyone check for cobwebs on those AP jugs?? I think I might be tempted to put a quarter under one of the jugs in the front row and come back in a week to see if it's still there.

 

[merconvvv]

IMPORTANT HEALTH, SAFETY, AND ENVIRONMENTAL INFORMATION
Relative Density (at 15.6 °C): 0.839 [ASTM D4052]
Flammability (Solid, Gas): N/A
Flash Point [Method]: 235°C (455°F) [ASTM D-92]
Flammable Limits (Approximate volume % in air): LEL: 0.9 UEL: 7.0
Autoignition Temperature: N/D
Boiling Point / Range: > 316°C (601°F)
Decomposition Temperature: N/D
Vapor Density (Air = 1): > 2 at 101 kPa
Vapor Pressure: < 0.013 kPa (0.1 mm Hg) at 20 °C
Evaporation Rate (n-butyl acetate = 1): N/D
pH: N/A
Log Pow (n-Octanol/Water Partition Coefficient): > 3.5
Solubility in Water: Negligible
Viscosity: [N/D at 40 °C] | 8.4 cSt (8.4 mm2/sec) at 100°C
Oxidizing Properties: See Hazards Identification Section.

OTHER INFORMATION
Freezing Point: N/D
Melting Point: N/A
Pour Point: -45°C (-49°F) [ASTM D97]

 

[53' Stude]

5th M1 post in less than a week. SMH

 

[PimTac]

Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh
Originally Posted By: merconvvv
I found this from sds data sheet.
Not minus 54 c as reported elsewhere. Less additives.
Not complaining as it is one heck of oil.
Afraid it might be permanently replaced with 0w20 annual protection. Walmart already has tons of ap at 50 bucks for 5 quart jug. Don't see why they would have a 15k and 20k mile oil at same time. I don't see much ep on walmart shelves anymore. I stocked up on ep

It is -54C and is over 70% Group IV/V...



What is the Group IV/V content of the ep oil?

 

[merconvvv]

I might put a nickel underneath the jugs

Pimtac I only remember about 0w20 ep.

 

[Nickdfresh]

Originally Posted By: merconvvv
IMPORTANT HEALTH, SAFETY, AND ENVIRONMENTAL INFORMATION
Relative Density (at 15.6 °C): 0.839 [ASTM D4052]
Flammability (Solid, Gas): N/A
Flash Point [Method]: 235°C (455°F) [ASTM D-92]
Flammable Limits (Approximate volume % in air): LEL: 0.9 UEL: 7.0
Autoignition Temperature: N/D
Boiling Point / Range: > 316°C (601°F)
Decomposition Temperature: N/D
Vapor Density (Air = 1): > 2 at 101 kPa
Vapor Pressure: < 0.013 kPa (0.1 mm Hg) at 20 °C
Evaporation Rate (n-butyl acetate = 1): N/D
pH: N/A
Log Pow (n-Octanol/Water Partition Coefficient): > 3.5
Solubility in Water: Negligible
Viscosity: [N/D at 40 °C] | 8.4 cSt (8.4 mm2/sec) at 100°C
Oxidizing Properties: See Hazards Identification Section.

OTHER INFORMATION
Freezing Point: N/D
Melting Point: N/A
Pour Point: -45°C (-49°F) [ASTM D97]


The SDS isn't the finished product and may be only a general measuring certain components. Why would you believe one spec over the other "as reported elsewhere"? They're both on the same site...

 

[Nickdfresh]

Originally Posted By: PimTac
Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh
Originally Posted By: merconvvv
I found this from sds data sheet.
Not minus 54 c as reported elsewhere. Less additives.
Not complaining as it is one heck of oil.
Afraid it might be permanently replaced with 0w20 annual protection. Walmart already has tons of ap at 50 bucks for 5 quart jug. Don't see why they would have a 15k and 20k mile oil at same time. I don't see much ep on walmart shelves anymore. I stocked up on ep

It is -54C and is over 70% Group IV/V...



What is the Group IV/V content of the ep oil?


As stated above in case you have reading comprehension difficulties. IDK the exact blend of III/IV/V (AN's)...

 

[merconvvv]

It correlates better
10W30 ep minus 39
5W30 ep minus 40
5W20 ep minus 42
0W20 ep minus 45

I believe sds more than web page programmer.

 

[Nickdfresh]

The SDS is also created by a "web programmer". It doesn't "correlate" because it depends on the blend of base oils. The MSDS states that 0W-20 has roughly 70% Group IV, so obviously it's going to have a lower pour point.

Mobil's pour points are probably conservative anyways with the "got'cha" competition always providing "8% better wear" type advertising...