Originally Posted by spasm3
Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by spasm3
So what? If they like it and it's what they want, why are you worried about it?
I am not worried, though it is irritating during snow storms to drive around them struggling to get home.
This is discussion. If someone wants to shell out $70,000 for a vehicle that gets 10mpg, does family stuff much worse than average minivan, and has dynamic properties of average lawn mower, it is their problem.
I don' t see " Their Problem"
They don't struggle in snow. Most of the drivers do have to learn that braking is no better , but the real 4wd works well in snow. Trucks in the ditches are common as some owners don't estimate braking well.
My avalanche gets 10mpg but only that low when towing my travel trailer, and its over 6k lbs. i also use the truck for kayaks, camping and non camping trips. I also use it to haul cut wood,. i stand in the bed and use the limb trimmer to cut limbs in my drive. People you see driving them may own boats, campers , or property elsewhere. But even if they don't , maybe they just like trucks, so what.
My only complaint about newer 1/2 ton trucks, is i can't get a crew cab truck minimally optioned, and especially with out carpet. To get a rubber floor you have to go 3/4 ton work trucks, and that might be 70k.
The last paragraph of the OP's post stated the median price of a full size truck is 47,900 not 70,000. Sure you can go spend that on a truck but thats not what the majority of the trucks on the road cost, according to the article.
So Edmunds has the MRSP of a honda odyssey as being 30k to 47k depending on options. Compared to the price of the truck not that much more. The truck hauls mulch , kayaks, and will tow 3 times what a minivan will.
Now look at resale, the truck will always have better resale than the minivan.
Again so whats it to you? You want a minivan, have had it. If i had lots of kids say more than 2, i'd probably have owned one, and a truck.
No it does not work well. Besides the fact that as I said, average truck is dynamic as John Deere lawnmower is, which is terrible in snow, they are not good bcs 99.99% of truck owners does not have proper tires for slick conditions. Most of vehicles during "bombgeneses" that hit Colorado in March that created traffic, and ultimately blocked roads were trucks, JEEP's and Subaru's, and all trucks here are 4WD. However, they did not get stuck when snow got deep. They got stuck when slush turned in ice and got covered by 1/2 inch of snow. F15o that was driving on one road behind me that has stop lights on 4% incline eventually just stopped, and I picked up guy and drove hime home.
My point about how this does not make sense is that most owners where I live "haul" child seats. They do not tow, do construction etc. I have neighbor that has construction company and of course, he has truck, which makes absolute sense. But, for family duties, minivan or SUV are 10 times better option, and they can tow mulch too (for example my VW CC towed mulch too), kayak can fit on roof of Subaru, let alone some SUV or minivan. Now if one needs to tow something serious, I already said, there is no doubt truck or SUV with body on frame is best option.
