Lucid Air - The new Buick?
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OVERKILL
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You are quite welcome!
505 miles in the Edmunds “Real World” EV range test.
TESTED: 2022 Lucid Air Dream Sets New EV Range Record | Edmunds
Edmunds tests the all-new 2022 Lucid Air Dream Range to see how far it can go on a full battery charge. Its official EPA-estimated range is 520 miles, but EV range can vary in the real world. Here's how Lucid's first-ever vehicle fared in our testing.
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1000 horsepower is for this geriatric who turned 75 yesterday !!
I had been away for few years from this forum. When did OVERKILL convert to electrical cars? He has become an evangelist like a born again guy for EV or did somebody hijacked his account?
All we need now is few more vocal gas guys to go through baptism and life will be all good. I am NOT going to name the names yet
OverKill you should have also included the weight (and size) of the respective powertrain in to the mix when you compared the weight of gasoline and weight of batteries. Of course, the calculations will be incomplete without taking in to account difference of weight between a full and empty gasoline tank vs full and empty battery pack. I mean those electrons have mass too
OVERKILL
$100 Site Donor 2021
I was trying to contrast the difference in the mass of the storage medium (hydrocarbons vs batteries) so I didn't include the weight of the electric drives nor the powertrain. We could make that comparison separately however!OverKill you should have also included the weight (and size) of the respective powertrain in to the mix when you compared the weight of gasoline and weight of batteries. Of course, the calculations will be incomplete without taking in to account difference of weight between a full and empty gasoline tank vs full and empty battery pack. I mean those electrons have mass too
A BMW M4 weighs 3,880lbs for example, while the i4 M50 weighs 5,018lbs. That's a pretty substantial difference.
Is it supposed to burn down my garage? I had no idea!! Is that a feature or bug??
Talking about feature or bug, the latest firmware update means I am not able to get "Navigate On Autopilot". I am hoping that now Elon will forget about Tesla and giving us unnecessary firmware updates and will waste all of his time on his Twitter feed.
OVERKILL
$100 Site Donor 2021
Yep, I know, but we don't have the specs for that, but we do know how much the battery weighs and we can easily figure out how much a full tank of gas weighs. With that more recent example, I was just showing that the engine/trans/fuel combo weight in an M4 is considerably less than the motor/gearbox/battery combo in the i4 M50, which is based on the same platform.
So, if we assume the battery weighs the same as the Tesla battery I mentioned earlier (I have no idea if that's the case or not) and we subtract that from the i4 M50's weight, that brings us down to 3,958lbs for the car plus motors, gearboxes and controllers vs 3,880lbs for the M4 with its total powertrain.
OVERKILL
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Odd that he compared the smallest Model 3 battery pack and car weight in RWD only to the largest i4 battery pack in AWD. That seems disingenuous.
Also, the bimmer platform isn't ICE-based. It a modular platform that was designed, from the get-go, to do ICE, PHEV and EV and has many interchangeable components (like the floor pan) to accommodate that. We got into those details in another thread.
The battery is also not the only reason the car is heavier, he touched-on that when comparing the curb weight of the regular 4-series to the Model 3, and the regular 4-series starts off heavier in the first place. This is because it has a lot more "stuff". Insulation, dash material, electronics, panels...etc. It's a much cozier and more traditional cabin (that's like the regular 4-series cabin for the most part) intentionally.
It's also not "much more expensive". A similarly equipped Model 3 is very close to the same price (larger battery, AWD).
Man some of you guys are brutal judging a car on the basis of a photo and who is to knock the price, the price is what one can afford.
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To me a lot of $60,000 EV’s look like $20,000 ICE Econo boxes so this Lucid at 100,000 looks like you’re getting what you’re paying for luxury, at a price, but at least it’s “there”
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To me a lot of $60,000 EV’s look like $20,000 ICE Econo boxes so this Lucid at 100,000 looks like you’re getting what you’re paying for luxury, at a price, but at least it’s “there”
