This is a sample from a outdoor power equipment filter I commonly use. The John Deere as resent as last year was an e-core design and about $7. The Napa/Wix was a steel tube with holes in it last time I bought one (also about a year ago). The Kawasaki filter is a direct copy of the Deere filter but with an orange ADBV. Both are made by Champion and the OEM filter pulled off had an e-core center tube as well. This batch all have louvers and all look horrible. The wix made filter has visibly closed ones. I’m probably going to go with a Champ full sized version of the ph3614 style filter that still has the nylon cage. Having oil present is more important than efficiency in my opinion.
Louvers are showing up on more filters lately
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I'm sure it's cost cutting and the louvers are easier/cheaper to make.
Champion Labs, now a division of First Brands, has several different recognizable designs. Photos 2,3,6 and 7 which I believe are the John Deere and Kawasaki, have the additional plate at the top and the recognizable 8 holes and six “ nubs “ around the outside. The design varies by filter model. Thanks for the post.
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Wix has been taken over by Mann, which also owns Purolator, and has been cheapening Wix filters to the Purolator design. We have seen many Purolators with improperly-formed louvers not opened all the way.
By far the best when it comes to louvers is Hastings/Baldwin, which uses a different design. They seem to be the only ones who can make them properly every time. See if there is a Baldwin or Hastings available for your Deere.
By far the best when it comes to louvers is Hastings/Baldwin, which uses a different design. They seem to be the only ones who can make them properly every time. See if there is a Baldwin or Hastings available for your Deere.
I've seen several "louvered' filters with poor punching for those louvers, (not open for a good
number of those louvers. I prefer the e-core now, as it flows better than holes, but holes are
better than louvers in my opinion.
My 2¢
number of those louvers. I prefer the e-core now, as it flows better than holes, but holes are
better than louvers in my opinion.
My 2¢
I agree and I also prefer the ecore cage design. My point was that I can’t find that in a filter listed for my application. I would have to use a filter that is listed for another application like a longer Ph3614 sized filter and take a chance on warranty being an issue if I had and engine problem. I have lots of machines and have seen lots of problems, some caused by employees and some not. Either way the mower in question was $27,000 and due for its first service. I think I’ll stick to the Baldwin for this one.
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Yup, currently my favorite design.
I agree 100% but neither list a filter for my application.
Champ Labs has been using louvers on many/most of their filters for a long time. I can remember the previous (before Wix made) Champ made Super Tech smaller 6607/4967/7317 (non ecore) OFs using louvers years ago. There was several threads about them here.
Wix/Napa Gold has been using them for at least a couple/few years now. Purolator switched before that. Both starting not long after M&H became owner. I've used many louvered OFs, always cut open and inspected, including many with light down centertube, (which 'I' consider ultimate proof), never had an issue.
Wix/Napa Gold has been using them for at least a couple/few years now. Purolator switched before that. Both starting not long after M&H became owner. I've used many louvered OFs, always cut open and inspected, including many with light down centertube, (which 'I' consider ultimate proof), never had an issue.
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