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Why not run Amsoil ss. If you like USA products.
Though Amsoil, Red Line and a couple I am probably missing are the best of the best, but I am too tight to give the money for those high-end products. Besides that, I have never liked Amsoil's pyramid marketing approach, theirs or anybody else's as far as that goes. It is doubtful that will ever change, they have done it that way since their inception. Later, JoelWhy not run Amsoil ss. If you like USA products.
Tig has for 40 yearsSomeone posted a picture of their valve cover using M1 with 10k intervals and I think it was over 200k and it looked pretty much spotless.
That thing is filthy!My son's 328i at 108k miles. The minimum OCI was 15k, using BMW TPT 5W-30.
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Umm…. Blacklight tests on an unknown liquid in a dark room with what looks like patterned carpet (I know it’s not) probably isn’t the best advertisement for LM…
Honest question, but why care about marketing approach if it’s about the product you purchase? Users aren’t required to sell it themselves. Besides, we have @Pablo who has been here for literally decades. Personally, having a go to product expert isn’t a bad thing at all.Though Amsoil, Red Line and a couple I am probably missing are the best of the best, but I am too tight to give the money for those high-end products. Besides that, I have never liked Amsoil's pyramid marketing approach, theirs or anybody else's as far as that goes. It is doubtful that will ever change, they have done it that way since their inception. Later, Joel
I know why people use the unflattering word pyramid but Amsoil is not a pyramid nor an illegal pyramid scheme. Pyramid implies dot at top and ever expanding base. That is not true. 3 levels and done. There are a lot of dealers true but I have no connection with 99.99+% of theseThough Amsoil, Red Line and a couple I am probably missing are the best of the best, but I am too tight to give the money for those high-end products. Besides that, I have never liked Amsoil's pyramid marketing approach, theirs or anybody else's as far as that goes. It is doubtful that will ever change, they have done it that way since their inception. Later, Joel
Emotional Support Oil.......I absolutely just roared. My day has been made.Pretty much any fluid that meets the GF-6/SP spec will do well for that OCI plan. And I mean ANY lube ... including ST and a slew of other house brands.
Given the typical penchant for BITOGers to ignore real data, and use their favorite flavor of ESO (emotional support oil), then pick whatever you like.
Just know that the engine will NEVER know the difference.
Nothing against Pablo here. And Amsoil makes great oil. The way my maintenance schedule is going to be and with the short trips it would be dumb to spend that kind of money on engine oil, even if pyramid schemes do or don't irritate me. They do run a really nice website; I just bought a new oil sampling pump from them. Anyhow, thanks for the reply.Honest question, but why care about marketing approach if it’s about the product you purchase? Users aren’t required to sell it themselves. Besides, we have @Pablo who has been here for literally decades. Personally, having a go to product expert isn’t a bad thing at all.
Amsoil products are top of the market and could yield good ROI if a vehicle is a good extended OCI candidate. If it’s about best oil to use without concern for cost, it’s on a short list.
Obvious, 90% short tripper in question may not make as much sense, but once I signed up originally with my Amsoil account, the thought of it being MLM style hasn’t really occurred as I have no interaction with the person that signed me up.![]()
If you’re considering Molygen, Amsoil may even be cheaper as a preferred customer.Nothing against Pablo here. And Amsoil makes great oil. The way my maintenance schedule is going to be and with the short trips it would be dumb to spend that kind of money on engine oil, even if pyramid schemes do or don't irritate me. They do run a really nice website; I just bought a new oil sampling pump from them. Anyhow, thanks for the reply.
So just that 0.01 Dot Dude, eh ?I know why people use the unflattering word pyramid but Amsoil is not a pyramid nor an illegal pyramid scheme. Pyramid implies dot at top and ever expanding base. That is not true. 3 levels and done. There are a lot of dealers true but I have no connection with 99.99+% of these
Yes, just ST and HPL with a vacuum in between …Emotional Support Oil.......I absolutely just roared. My day has been made.
I have checked it out, Molygen is much cheaper than Amsoil, even at the preferred customer price. At least $4.00 a quart difference. Besides that, they don't plan to change the way they market their Amsoil, and I won't buy much from until they do. The little bit I would buy, they are not out much anyhow.If you’re considering Molygen, Amsoil may even be cheaper as a preferred customer.
I have checked it out, Molygen is much cheaper than Amsoil, even at the preferred customer price. At least $4.00 a quart difference. Besides that, they don't plan to change the way they market their Amsoil, and I won't buy much from until they do. The little bit I would buy, they are not out much anyhow.
Nothing against Pablo here. And Amsoil makes great oil. The way my maintenance schedule is going to be and with the short trips it would be dumb to spend that kind of money on engine oil, even if pyramid schemes do or don't irritate me. They do run a really nice website; I just bought a new oil sampling pump from them. Anyhow, thanks for the reply.
$1 differenceI have checked it out, Molygen is much cheaper than Amsoil, even at the preferred customer price. At least $4.00 a quart difference. Besides that, they don't plan to change the way they market their Amsoil, and I won't buy much from until they do. The little bit I would buy, they are not out much anyhow.
Edge is a strong contender at $24 for a 5 Qt jug sold at Walmart. Not that GTX synthetic is a slouch for oil I’d go for the edge personally. Walmart has edge ep on rollback $26Which one of these two will protect my 2025 Toyota non-hybrid 2.5L A25A-FKS Engine better, cost aside. OCI every 6 months or 5000 miles, whichever comes first. Ninety percent short trip city driving, 20 to 40 mph. And yes, I know Castrol makes three higher grades of full synthetic oils. The Liqiu Moly is a pretty bright green though, which makes no difference. Your opinions and thoughts are welcome, but I'd like to choose between these two and I would appreciate BITOG input. Thanks
The Amsoil is a superior oil vs. Molygen hence the price difference.I have checked it out, Molygen is much cheaper than Amsoil, even at the preferred customer price. At least $4.00 a quart difference. Besides that, they don't plan to change the way they market their Amsoil, and I won't buy much from until they do. The little bit I would buy, they are not out much anyhow.
I wonder why Amsoil conflates data from one product's test results with marketing spiel for another one of their products.
Yes, how their marketing is set up is different than others, back when Amsoil started it was obviously legal then too. People referred to as a pyramid scheme, which is how I came up with the wording. It obviously is not illegal, and true pyramid scheme marketing is illegal in the USA. So, let's put it a different way, because I don't want to "slander" you, or anyone. As soon as Amsoil sells their products the same way Mobil or Valvoline or Liqui Moly, I personally would like it more. I don't need It right now. It would be foolish for me to use it with my self-imposed service intervals; it would be a waste of a really good oil. As I said earlier, I have no problem with you or Amsoil, which may be the highest quality oil available. I am just pointing out I am not a fan of the way Amsoil is marketed, which is different than most others. That's ok, it is a free country. Besides that, I recently ordered off the Amsoil site and bought an oil sampling pump. So actually, I am set up with them. So, it must not bother me that much. Amsoil does use a really good oil analysis lab, being Polaris Labs out of Indianapolis. If I didn't already have my own account set up with Polaris, I would be buying kits from Amsoil. I won't refer to Amsoil as a pyramid scheme anymore, because if they really were, they wouldn't be in business. I will just refer to it as a little different than Mobil, Castrol, or Red Line. Take Care PabloThat said you are free to buy whatever you wish, but "pyramid scheme" is slander.