Liqui moly 4200 vs 4600 vs M1 ESP 5W30

[Fa24wrx]

I'm trying to find an oil that meets most/all of these specs for my 22 subaru wrx and these 3 oils seem to meet them:
API SP (for warranty purposes) and BMW LL04/C30/similar euro certs for the HTHS, KV100, etc.

My wrx seems to burn about 0.25 qts per 3k miles sp low to mid saps preferred. I also do 3-3.5k OCI.
Any other recommendations that follow these specs?

 

[Rand]

m1 5w30 ESP is low ash mid saps.

m1 0w30 ESP available at walmart 5qt for $28 my 2 cents.

But I have both 5w30 esp and 0w30 esp from the AAP clearance for my 24 outback XT.

 

[edyvw]

ESP any day.

 

[Fa24wrx]

m1 5w30 ESP is low ash mid saps.

m1 0w30 ESP available at walmart 5qt for $28 my 2 cents.

But I have both 5w30 esp and 0w30 esp from the AAP clearance for my 24 outback XT.

0w30 is not API SP

 

[Rand]

0w30 is not API SP

Sorta.

 

[Fa24wrx]

ESP any day.

Any specific reason why?

 

[Fa24wrx]

Sorta.
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Yea but the bottle doesn't have the API seal. It is obviously a great oil that will exceed it but I'd like the peace of mind of having the seal

 

[The Critic]

Yea but the bottle doesn't have the API seal. It is obviously a great oil that will exceed it but I'd like the peace of mind of having the seal

If API SP licensing is important to you, Top Tec 4600 5W-30 is the only option.

 

[Fa24wrx]

If API SP licensing is important to you, Top Tec 4600 5W-30 is the only option.

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I've seen the Mobil 1 esp 5w30 in person. The bottle has API SP seal

 

[The Critic]

I've seen the Mobil 1 esp 5w30 in person. The bottle has API SP seal

The API license directory is supposed to be the official position.

 

[Fa24wrx]

The API license directory is supposed to be the official position.

Where can I access that?

 

[The Critic]

Where can I access that?

https://engineoil.api.org/Directory/EolcsSearch

 

[Fa24wrx]

https://engineoil.api.org/Directory/EolcsSearch

M1 esp 5w30 is API SP

 

[The Critic]

Where can I access that?

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M1 esp 5w30 is API SP

That’s the ExxonMobil Japan market formulation. You need to narrow search to ExxonMobil USA only.

 

[Fa24wrx]

That’s the ExxonMobil Japan market formulation. You need to narrow search to ExxonMobil USA only.

Weird. Wonder why the bottles in my stores I've been to has API SP.

 

[Nuclear_42]

If you want Liqui Moly why not try MolyGen in 5w-30 or 5w-40?

 

[The Critic]

If you're really that concerned about warranty, you should be aware that Subaru wants an API licensed engine oil that is also resource conserving. None of the options you've presented are RC.

In order to be fully warranty complaint, you don’t get to pick and choose which portions of their recommendations to abide by.

 

[Fa24wrx]

If you want Liqui Moly why not try MolyGen in 5w-30 or 5w-40?

Because the noack isn't as good, and I'd have to go up to the 5w40 for the HTHS, KV100, etc to match these 5w30 oils. Plus 5w40 isn't api sp

 

[Al]

ESP is a very good oil with 11.9 cSts.
I guess I am wondering what specs you "need" and why. I have FA20 Turbo(Gorester XT) and the FA24 NA(GR86). At one time I felt I needed the 40 wt oil in the XT. I now use a 5W-30. I use the 5W-30 in the FA24. I have become a fan of Valvoline EP. I pulled a sample at 5K miles on my GR86. If it turns out good I will use it for both vehicles for 10K mile OCIs.

 

[Fa24wrx]

ESP is a very good oil with 11.9 cSts.
I guess I am wondering what specs you "need" and why. I have FA20 Turbo(Gorester XT) and the FA24 NA(GR86). At one time I felt I needed the 40 wt oil in the XT. I now use a 5W-30. I use the 5W-30 in the FA24. I have become a fan of Valvoline EP. I pulled a sample at 5K miles on my GR86. If it turns out good I will use it for both vehicles for 10K mile OCIs.

Im currently running 5w30 valvoline Restore and protect. I've also used valvoline EP.

I want api sp for warranty and the euro certs for hths, and other viscosity related benefits like kv100