A Salt Bae Lawsuit Provides a Valuable Reminder About Tipping
Employees argued that a service charge at the Nurs-Et Miami should not have covered their wages. A court disagreed.
leave a tip on top of service charge now?
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I read about this restaurant before. One of things it's famous for is being very expensive and overpriced. It's their schtick.
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Makes me glad I don't eat out much.
I don't get why there is a 18% service fee?
Just charge 18% more for the food.
Also the article says that the mandatory gratuity that many places charge for large groups is also not considered a tip, since it is not a voluntary amount paid by the customer. I did not know that, and the few times I have gone with large groups, I considered that the tip and left nothing more than that amount.
I don't get why there is a 18% service fee?
Just charge 18% more for the food.
Also the article says that the mandatory gratuity that many places charge for large groups is also not considered a tip, since it is not a voluntary amount paid by the customer. I did not know that, and the few times I have gone with large groups, I considered that the tip and left nothing more than that amount.
It is considered the tip, just not a voluntary tip.
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Yea, but it applies to take out also! I worked in a high end Hotel that charged a 15% gratuity for banquets back in 1982/85
Food is getting pretty expensive, luckily its not an issue for me, but many families are feeling some real pain trying to feed their families, and I won't bring up the F*el prices. Hopefully the tide will change, but I don't have much confidence.
Food is getting pretty expensive, luckily its not an issue for me, but many families are feeling some real pain trying to feed their families, and I won't bring up the F*el prices. Hopefully the tide will change, but I don't have much confidence.
When a restaurant automatically adds gratuity (usually 18%) because of 6 or more people in the party, I don't add anything extra unless the service is really something special (it almost never is - at least, at the kinds of establishments we frequent - read: not uber-expensive restaurants).
i think what they were doing was taking the " service charge" and not distributing it with the servers. they would use it to pay wages and not as tips. So if you got one oft those tables , you were basically not getting anything. i think the difference is service charge vs gratuity or tip.
Its not uncommon these days to have a service charge added to your check reguardless of the size of the party, especially at high end ones .
Its not uncommon these days to have a service charge added to your check reguardless of the size of the party, especially at high end ones .
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I think you can decline the gratuity or tip, some restaurants they have their digital check out the pre-programmed to the 18% or so but you can slide it back down.
Got take out at Jersey Mikes on Sunday, wife added 15% tip at checkout. I did not say a word, but are you freaking kidding me?
We dine out three times a week on average and I am a big tipper, partly because waiters depend on tips and partly because it tends to insure better service at restaurants we frequent. I never tip for take-out since it does not involve service - I am just buying goods at a counter.
What irks me is when a bill is presented with an included gratuity and the waiter doesn't point this out, thus hoping for a double tip. In such cases I just pay the 18% they added, but would have given a higher tip had they not. If I found that the added gratuity was not distributed to my waiters I would no longer patronize that restaurant.
What irks me is when a bill is presented with an included gratuity and the waiter doesn't point this out, thus hoping for a double tip. In such cases I just pay the 18% they added, but would have given a higher tip had they not. If I found that the added gratuity was not distributed to my waiters I would no longer patronize that restaurant.
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Fortunately here in the Midwest this has not happened at any restaurant that I frequent. When I worked banquets at a large convention Hotel in the late 60's the banquets were upcharged 15% of the total. The patron was required to give a head count 12 hours in advance. They were billed for the head count.
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This annoys me as well, everyone is asking for tips for everything now. You order cookies and put your credit card into that white iPad credit card machine and suddenly a tip is requested for putting a few cookies in a box.
This is tip shaming and it must stop! /s
It's like when you're at the register at the supermarket and the cashier asks if you want to donate $1 to some charity. It's usually a worthy cause but what you are actually doing is giving money to the store, which donates it on their behalf, and uses it as a tax credit. Essentially you are lowering the stores tax burden. No way, I'll donate directly to my charity of choice.
The only time I do donate is when I'm in the drive through at Taco Bell and they ask to round up my $8.59 order to $9 for helping Taco Bell employees with college education. 1. I don't want them messing with my food and 2. those employees need all the help they can get!
I give tips everywhere i feel its approriate. Barber gets 10 dollar tip, 20 percent tip on dine in food with waiter, etc.
Now I see a lot of places are asking for tips when they shouldn't be. For example, fast food, takeout pizza, etc.
Even my subway sandwich shop has added a tip line.
Now I see a lot of places are asking for tips when they shouldn't be. For example, fast food, takeout pizza, etc.
Even my subway sandwich shop has added a tip line.
LOL as soon as I read this I thought about the sandwich and then you posted the video... Perfect
I generally tip very well, with three exceptions.
1. If a place adds a service charge, that's the entirety of the tip. If it's an 18% service charge, that's the tip. No extra ever. Management made the decision of what the tip should be. If the staff doesn't like it, find a job with more enlightened management.
2. Take out. A few bucks but not more than 10%. If they try to tip shame with an auto check box of 15, 20 or 25% I consider tipping even less.
3. If they calculate tip on total plus tax, I reduce the tip and let them know why. The reduction is my personal tax on bad math. Never tip on tax.
A fine dining establishment in one of the big Vegas casinos gave me a bill with a check box for tips with percentages calculated correctly. I checked the 20% level, and a hostess came to the table with a card reader. The card reader total with the 20% tip came out more than the check with the 20% tip. The check didn't include tip on tax, but the card reader automatically did. I made the hostess redo it. That bordered on fraud in my opinion.
1. If a place adds a service charge, that's the entirety of the tip. If it's an 18% service charge, that's the tip. No extra ever. Management made the decision of what the tip should be. If the staff doesn't like it, find a job with more enlightened management.
2. Take out. A few bucks but not more than 10%. If they try to tip shame with an auto check box of 15, 20 or 25% I consider tipping even less.
3. If they calculate tip on total plus tax, I reduce the tip and let them know why. The reduction is my personal tax on bad math. Never tip on tax.
A fine dining establishment in one of the big Vegas casinos gave me a bill with a check box for tips with percentages calculated correctly. I checked the 20% level, and a hostess came to the table with a card reader. The card reader total with the 20% tip came out more than the check with the 20% tip. The check didn't include tip on tax, but the card reader automatically did. I made the hostess redo it. That bordered on fraud in my opinion.
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Just their effort to Baffle you with BS
I work for tips and don’t tip at fast food places, including Jersey Mike’s. They’re not waiting on me and they get paid way More than minimum hourly wage for tipped employees
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