Lean mixture is hotter...why?

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Tech Talk: Exhaust Gas Temperature De-Mystified
Reprinted with the permission of National Kart News http://www.nkn.com and John Copeland of Fox Valley Kart Shop - http://www.foxvalleykart.com

Editor’s Note: I read this article some time ago and it is right on the money for EGT tuning assistance for 100cc Controlled and Yamaha engines. Having your Yamaha set lean enough without sticking the motor can mean a big difference in lap times; I’ve seen as much as two to three seconds. Since learning to apply the techniques below and watching my EGT closely, I have saved several motors from sticking and quickly manage to get perfectly tuned. Thanks so much to Fox Valley's John Copeland, Kurt Huber and Curt Paluzzi with National Kart News for allowing EKN to share this with our readers.
- Rhonda Mims-Brown


- by Kurt Huber and John Copeland

More and more serious racers are taking an alternative approach to judging the condition and performance of their engines. By using exhaust gas temperature they have added a powerful diagnostic and tuning tool to their arsenal of racetrack weapons. Exhaust Gas Temperature (EGT) measurement has been a fact of life in other forms of motorsports for years, yet its use in karting has been relatively limited until recently. Here's the skinny.

If combustion was a perfect process, the exhaust gas from an engine would contain only nitrogen, water vapor, and carbon dioxide. But in the real world it also contains carbon monoxide, hydrogen, unburned fuel, other hydrocarbons, plus traces of aldehydes, alcohols, ketones, phenols, acids, nitrogen oxides, carbon, and lots of other stuff. And that's assuming that we're starting with conventional, legal fuel. There have been lots of things written about illegal additives and how dangerous they can be. Please think before you or anybody you know adds anything extra to your fuel. Think about the price you or your friends or family might pay, health-wise, just because someone is looking for an edge. But this article is not about what fuel is composed of, but rather about the temperature of the combustion products and how their measurement can be an even bigger edge.

In the temperature measurement industry there are two basic types of measurement devices. The first is called resistance temperature detection or RTD. This type of device is basically a very fine wire encased in a container, or bulb. As the temperature of the bulb changes, the electrical resistance of the wire changes. By passing a small current through this wire and measuring the resistance, the temperature can be determined. This is the method used by your Digatron cylinder head temperature gauge. And as any of you knows who've used a CHT GAUGE for any length of time, these CHT sensors, while accurate, are relatively delicate. Rough service (like on a kart) is not generally recommended. They also have a temperature limit that makes them unsuitable for use measuring EGT.

The other major means of temperature measurement is the thermocouple. The thermocouple is a unique device. There are several different types of thermocouples, using different materials for different temperature ranges, but they all operate by the same basic means. A thermocouple consists of two wires, of different materials, welded or fused together. For the temperature range we are most interested in, the type K thermocouple is most suitable with a maximum temperature of 1900 degrees Fahrenheit. In a type K device one wire is an alloy called CHROMEL®*, and the other an alloy called ALUMEL®*. A small portion of each wire is exposed and the two are welded or fused together. That assembly is encased in an electrically insulated sheath and the other ends of the wires are connected to a very sensitive voltmeter. Now here's where the thermocouple differs from the RTD. When the fused end of the thermocouple wire is heated, it generates its own current. It's only a matter of millivolts (that's one one-thousandth of a volt), but the voltage generated is an accurate indicator of the temperature of the end of the thermocouple. A real bonus for motorsports is that these thermocouples are remarkably sturdy and reliable. With no delicate parts to break, unless you exceed their maximum temperature, they're pretty hard to damage. In fact, every gas- fired furnace and water heater uses one to tell the gas valve that the pilot flame is lit.

The thermocouple probe is carefully fitted into the exhaust system, relatively close to the engine. For maximum accuracy you want the tip of the thermocouple to be centered in the exhaust gas stream as it comes out of the engine. But there is considerable debate about how close to the engine it needs to be. Digatron's information advises mounting the probe between 3 and 4 inches from the piston face. But many snowmobile racers routinely set their EGT pickups as much as 8 inches from the exhaust port. In fact, it really doesn't matter exactly where the probe is mounted, although the closer to the exhaust port, the less the ambient air temperature will cool the header and affect the readings. One word of caution, however. Comparing EGT readings between engines or karts whose EGT probes are not mounted exactly the same distance from the piston will get you in trouble. If you use EGT, mount the pickups in all your headers at the same length. Otherwise you might just misinterpret the readings.

On the subject of mounting the EGT probe, there is some concern among 4 cycle racers about disrupting the gas flow in the relatively small diameter headers that are most common on 4 stroke engines. Introducing the probe, with a diameter of about .125 inches, about 1/2 inch into a 1 inch diameter header will consume about .0625 sq. inches of header cross section. That's about 8% of the total area. To test just what effect this might have on the absolute flow, we checked it on the flow bench. Our testing revealed that fitting a Digatron EGT probe into a .990 diameter header reduced the flow by __%. This is approximately the same flow as using a .960 header. You may want to factor that into your pipe selection if you're going to use EGT on your 4 cycle. You'll also want to factor in the value of knowing what your air/fuel ratio is doing versus whatever minor loss is exhaust flow there might be.

There are lots of myths and questions surrounding EGT and its use. Some folks figure that, if you have a Cylinder Head Temperature gauge (CHT), you already have all the information you need, and that EGT is redundant. While you can certainly get by on just head temp, CHT and EGT each tell you slightly different things, and using them together tells you some things that neither one could tell you alone. EGT has some advantages because of its basic construction and its mounting location. A thermocouple responds very quickly. Because the CHT sensor has to respond to the temperature on the outside of the head, it cannot respond to changes in combustion temperature as fast as the EGT probe that is directly in the exhaust gas stream. Secondly, the EGT probe is not exposed to the outside air; it is not affected by changes in outside temperature. By comparison, since the CHT is measuring the temperature of the cylinder head casting itself, and since the cylinder head is one of the engine's primary means of shedding heat to the air, the cooler the air, the cooler the CHT reading and vice versa. For quick, consistent temp readings, EGT is definitely worth a look.

But what exactly are we trying to determine with these temp sensors, anyway? EGT and CHT are simply ways of trying to judge the relative fuel/air ratio. We all know how critical it is to have the carb mixture correct, whether by changing the jet in a 4 cycle, or by adjusting the carb needles on a 2 cycle. And it's generally agreed that the leaner the mixture, the hotter the engine will run. But what is really happening inside there? Does hotter always mean better, or just sometimes?
Well, the truth is, it's mainly a matter of air. Many of you have had the experience of hitting the set-up just right in practice and then waiting excitedly for the race, certain you're going to blow 'em all away this time. But when the time comes for your race to start, suddenly you've lost that wonderful top-end RPM you had in practice, or the clutch just won't pull like it did in practice, or some other problem pops up to spoil your day. You haven’t changed a thing, but the air may have changed things for you! As the air temperature goes up, or the humidity goes down, or a storm front blows in, the density of the air changes, and that changes the fuel/air ratio that your carb delivers. If you don't recognize what's happening and adjust accordingly, you’re going to suffer.

So how can you stay on top of the effect that changing air conditions is having without bringing your own weatherman with you to the track? With an EGT gauge you can take a lot of the guesswork out of carb tuning. 'Remember we said that it was generally agreed that a leaner fuel/air ratio was always hotter. And when we asked if hotter was always better? Well, you guessed it, neither one is true. If you get the fuel/air ratio too lean, the combustion temperature will actually go down! Let's look at another example of this, one that you can actually see with the naked eye. An Oxy-Acetylene torch will burn with a wide variety of fuel/air ratios. Generally when you light the torch the mixture will have too much fuel (acetylene) for the amount of oxygen that's flowing. The flame will be yellow and produce a lot of smoke, and not be very hot, relatively speaking. But as you turn up the oxygen valve, the yellow flame and smoke disappear, the flame turns bright blue, and the flame temperature goes up dramatically. So leaner here is definitely hotter. But as you continue to turn up the oxygen, the flame begins to shrink, and the flame temperature actually goes down, even though it's leaner! Eventually, if you keep turning up the oxygen, the flame will just go out! Believe it or not, the same thing happens inside your engine.
"Wait a minute," you say. "I know that when I lean the engine out it just keeps getting hotter until it sticks!" If all you have to go by is CHT you're absolutely right. When your engine gets too lean, the skyrocketing temperature you see on the CHT is probably not really an indication of hotter combustion. Most likely it's a warning sign of DETONATION. Detonation is the collision of two flame fronts inside the combustion chamber, where there should be just one, and it's the single biggest cause of heat related engine failures. Savvy drivers can often sense that an engine is slowing down and richen up the mixture to control the detonation. But you don't need decades of experience to spot detonation before it puts you on the trailer for the day. Just like with the Oxy-Acetylene torch, when the mixture gets too lean, the flame temperature goes down! Detonation floods the combustion chamber with heat, so the CHT goes up, but with CHT and EGT readings, if you see CHT rising and EGT going down, it's a sure sign of detonation.

A quick adjustment will restore the power and save that expensive rebuild. Even with just EGT, it's a lot easier to get the most out of your engine without burning it down. EGT should climb as the RPMs come up on the straight, and then drop when you lift for the corner. If it drops when you're pulling off a hard corner, or under acceleration, you're on the detonation expressway back to the shop for a rebuild. Detonation is a fascinating subject, one that is too complicated to be handled adequately here. We'll save that for another article. But trust that it is something to avoid, and the best way to avoid it is to watch the exhaust gas temperature.

So to summarize, we know we want to run the fuel/air ratio as close to ideal as possible. And we know that the ideal fuel/air ration should produce the hottest combustion flame. While the cylinder head temperature gives us some indication of the combustion temperature, it can be misleading because of air temperature or other weather conditions. Because of the mass of the cylinder head, CHT can take a few seconds to register a change in internal temperature. And CHT alone is not the best indicator of detonation. Exhaust gas temperature does all these things better that CHT; better, faster, and more reliably. So what's holding you back? If someone came up with a clutch that was better, faster, and more reliable, you'd be after it in a second. Why is this any different? Remember, the more you know, the faster you go.
*CHROMEL® and ALUMEL® are registered trademarks of Hoskins Manufacturing Company.


Kurt Huber and John Copeland
 
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Originally posted by Jimbo:
A lean mixture has an excess of air to cool things down. The "boundary layer" always exists regardless of mixture, except when detonation blows it away. A large amount of excess fuel also cools, but be careful. At slightly rich, the maximum power area, produces the most heat. Cylinder head temperatures peak 25-50 degrees rich of peak exhaust gas temps.

So, by your definintion, no valve can burn without some form of fractured flame front. I don't see the differentiation in your post between a fragmented flame front due to fuel dropplets being spaced too far apart (lean) and a fractured flame from due to excessive cylinder pressure (balanced) from load.

Can you bridge that gap in my head for me
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Temperature related damage can be caused by running in the "slightly" rich-of-peak zone. Cylinder head temps peak there. Again, this relates more to aircooled engines. Aluminum looses about half of its strength by 400F. My main point is that the title of this thread is based on widely held myth. If running lean-of-peak destroyed engines, then we would never have been able to travel intercontinental or even transcontinental before jet aircraft, but we did.
 
How lean you can run before detonation to depend upon how cool you can keep the engine, or at least the critical parts of the engine like the pistons, cylinder head, plugs, etc., which is water injection was sometimes needed for high output piston engined 'warbirds'. I recall higher tuned two stroke bikes always flirting with piston seizure and/or holes from detonation.

Even stock diesel pickups can get close to maximum combustion temperatures, often quoted as EGTs getting close to 1300 deg, when towing heavier loads on grades at altitude.
 
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If running lean-of-peak destroyed engines, then we would never have been able to travel intercontinental or even transcontinental before jet aircraft, but we did.

Why? Is there some immutable law in physics of some weight to fuel carrying capacity ratio in terms of lifting body limits? That is, you can only make a prop plane carry enough fuel to run XX miles at peak ..and that any added power to carry the additional fuel consumes more (or just as much) then you can add in added capacity?
 
I wasn't trying to be smart (although it surely could have read that way). I was really interested if there was some "rule" that just made it impossible to do that without leaning.
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What I'm reading is that if we had real expensive energy before we had polution ...we'd be getting far more mpg and to heck with what came out the tail pipe.
 
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Originally posted by Gary Allan:
Oh ..I'm not ignorant of the power valve and the accellerator pumps of our somewhat antiquated carbs. I just wanted qualification on lean conditions having no deleterious effect on chamber internals. It was explained to me, by another aero-litterate fellow, that it was simply due to the exhaustion of the insulating layer of unburned fuel. You are the first to say that this exists in all combustion situations for the duration of the entire combustion cycle regardless of the density of the air:fuel charge. This was the first time that I've heard that detonation is the only source of temperature related damage. If you don't hear anything ..and have damage ..it is only due to inaudible detonation.

Yo can cause damage without detonation or preignition. Ask anyone who's modified air cooled engines, especially 2 stokes. You modify them and keep getting more and more power out of them. At some point you're making enough power and heat you're unable to keep things like pistons and valves cool enough.

You've reached the thermal limit of the engine. Expect problems.
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Originally posted by Gary Allan:

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If running lean-of-peak destroyed engines, then we would never have been able to travel intercontinental or even transcontinental before jet aircraft, but we did.

Why? Is there some immutable law in physics of some weight to fuel carrying capacity ratio in terms of lifting body limits? That is, you can only make a prop plane carry enough fuel to run XX miles at peak ..and that any added power to carry the additional fuel consumes more (or just as much) then you can add in added capacity?


Charles Lindberg did considerable experimental and practical research during WW2 which enabled American pilots to greatly extend their range by leaning out the mixtures substantially more than was standard practice at the time. This met with considerable resistance from the pilots who understandably did not want to burn up an engine on combat flights so Lindberg went to the Pacific theater and actually flew about 50 combat missions as a civilian to demonstrate the technique.

The B-29's bombing Japan took on so much extra fuel that they really couldn't lift off of the runways, they just flew off the end of the islands and stayed in ground effect until they burned off enough fuel to climb. Full throttle, just a few feet off the water, not even enough altitude to manuever, for miles and miles, just hoping an engine didn't catch fire
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Then hoping they had enough fuel to get back. Not to mention flak, enemy fighters, and bad weather. Burning up a snowmobile engine on the race track sounds pretty mild in comparison
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Joe
 
Yeah ..my departed father was priveleged to sign up for what his buddies called a "milk run". Naive soul he was. They called his name. The pilot told him to get in the top single 50 turret. I believe it was an early evolution of the B-25 (some twin prop Pacific theater bomber). When the flak started somewhere off the China Sea he knew he wasn't in Kansas anymore. He remarked how incredibly close the bomber got to the surface of the water. He said never put his name on any sign up list again.

Not that this has anything to do with leaning mixtures ..but you spurred the memory of his depiction of a one of the more comical scary days of his life.
 
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