LC in a brand new car?
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Seems like a waste of money to me.
JHZR2
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It has been mentioned that you should wait 1000 miles or so.
In my saab, I waited until I drained the factory fill before starting LC.
JMH
In my saab, I waited until I drained the factory fill before starting LC.
JMH
You shouldn't use LC in a new car because the oil knows the car is new and is not effected by wear, acids or crud. Any extra wear metals from assembly know they are to go directly to the filter without passing GO and not cause any problems. So if you have engine oil that knows the car is brand new then you can skip the LC. Otherwise it's probably the best time of all to use it. Keeping an engine clean might be easyer if try to stay ahead of the probem. The biggest failing of oil in longer oil change intervals is the failure to continue to keep the engine clean later in the oci. Maybe that little dose of LC every thousand miles is the boost the oil needs just as it is getting tired out. The oil is still lubricating but starts to fail to keep the engine clean. Having a time release, that is you pouring in an ounce, is a good way to know the additives are making it to the end of the oci. If it's winter with short run driving you can up the dose and/or frequency.
Breakin has been long debated. Your new car was probably broken in when the previous test driver blew it out on the freeway test drive, or the salesman took it to lunch. Going 3k miles is a good way to be absolutely sure it has long since been broken in. In fleet work we have put synthetic oil in straight off the delivery truck and in over 10 years have never had a problem over several thousand ordinary sedans and a few luxo cars and lots of pu's. The fleet manager is now using a Chevron additive that is very much a clone of LC and all cars start if from delivery. If you wait, it can't hurt and if you are having a breakin problem you will know for sure by 3k miles.
Purchasing a brand new `06 BMW. What is the current consensus re: using FP/LC. Should I use it from day 1 or wait??
What if the car no longer has a 1-2k mi. OCI requirement and the factory/OEM oil stays for 10-15k...when should LC be started?
What about using 1oz/1k mi. rather than the 1oz/qt. dosage until the first OCI just to keep things clean??
What if the car no longer has a 1-2k mi. OCI requirement and the factory/OEM oil stays for 10-15k...when should LC be started?
What about using 1oz/1k mi. rather than the 1oz/qt. dosage until the first OCI just to keep things clean??
Using LC is never a waste of money. It is a great product that actually works. Follow the manufacturers instructions. As far as the BMW is concerned start using it now. Like Bizzsaw said its ok to use after 1500 miles. Once again LC is one of the best out there
Dr. T, LC has a cF reduction capability that is incredible. Was underestimated by myself and Molakule until additional testing was explored.
If the engine design needs some "wear-in" to seat up properly then it is a good idea to wait.
In this application I would wait until after at least 2000 miles or the first oil change.
FP should be used yesterday!
Many of my BMW customers are using the OEM Castrol products for warranty and adding the LC/FP to compensate during the longer drains asked of these OEM oils weak spots.
If the engine design needs some "wear-in" to seat up properly then it is a good idea to wait.
In this application I would wait until after at least 2000 miles or the first oil change.
FP should be used yesterday!
Many of my BMW customers are using the OEM Castrol products for warranty and adding the LC/FP to compensate during the longer drains asked of these OEM oils weak spots.
"Dr. T, LC has a cF reduction capability that is incredible. Was underestimated by myself and Molakule until additional testing was explored."
Sorry if this has already been gone over, but where can I find this testing data or other good info on LC. I've read the FAQ; looking for some actual data, informed opinions, etc.
TIA,
- Glenn
Sorry if this has already been gone over, but where can I find this testing data or other good info on LC. I've read the FAQ; looking for some actual data, informed opinions, etc.
TIA,
- Glenn
Dr.T, the 1 ounce dosage is a starting place and LCD does suggest using UOA to verify and fine tune the dosage. I am using recent BMW analysis results we are seeing to give you that recommendation.
glennc, See the Molakule authored paper at lubecontrol.com for more info.
Terry
glennc, See the Molakule authored paper at lubecontrol.com for more info.
Terry
MolaKule
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While I haven't perused ALL of the UOA's that might have shown this, most likely these people may have used too much LC and thinned a substandard oil slightly.
Again, many variables affecting a UOA have to be considered in any oil analysis; this where expertise such as that which Terry possesses, comes into the picture.
OK I missed this:
"See the Molakule authored paper at lubecontrol.com for more info.
Terry"
What ASTM test and what Gain or reduction in COF was obtained I can not find this info.
Bruce
"See the Molakule authored paper at lubecontrol.com for more info.
Terry"
What ASTM test and what Gain or reduction in COF was obtained I can not find this info.
Bruce
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