Lawnmower Purchase Question

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I had a deal on a used Troy-Bilt that fell through, so I get to spend money on a new mower tomorrow. After reading the other thread, I'd thought I'd ask a quetion or two since some people here seem to have a great deal of knowledge and experience on the subject.

I have a .40 acre lawn that is relatively flat that needs badly to be mowed. Since it is so small, I'm going with a push mower. I'm looking to spend around $350 or less. At that price point, I'm looking at 6+ horse, adjustable speed and bagging options. Right now, I'm thinking a Lawn-Boy with the Duraforce engine since it was well-regarded in the other thread. However,I can also get a Craftsman for the same money with a bagger attached (something I doubt I'd use and 30 lbs difference in the two)

I'm going to run Amsoil 2-cycle in the lawnboy or whatever weight I need if I get a four-cycle mower. Anyone has any insight to what els eI could be looking at?
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It's probably that stinkin' off-set wheel that's causing all this thinking
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I had a Lawnboy for a while. The only thing I didn't like was the 2-cycle exhaust (breathing it then having it "cling" to your cloths and body). Just my 2 cents.
 
I ended up with a Lawn Boy 10323 Silver Series with the 2-Cycle Duraforce motor. It worked very well on my tall grass and I'm impressed enough by it. Of course I put a couple coats of wax on it so it shines all nice and pretty. I used the Lawn-Boy 2-cycle oil from the box to break it in, and will switch to Amsoil S2000 for the rest of the time.
 
Scott, I bought a Silver Pro also. I haven't used it enough to give a real testimony, but I love the exhaust note at idle. Sounds like a snowmobile. Like you, I'm breaking mine in on the supplied LB oil, but then I'm switching to Amsoil 100:1 which I'll probably run at about 80:1.
 
i also own a lawnboy silver series mower. self propelled, but equipped with the 5.0hp tecumseh 4 stroke. it's about 2 years old. i'm guessing they still offer this engine. i bought it at lowes. tough mower, without the mixing of oil and fuel hassles. running rotela t 15w40 in it. penzdude
 
We sell Lawnboy where I work and the new 6.5hp. Duraflop is a P.O.S .I must have done at least 50 short blocks on those units.The main problem is the air filter, they have the motor mounted in such a way that the dirt from the cutting deck gets sucked up into the air cleaner and scores up the piston and cylinder so if you don't maintain the air filter very well you will be buying a new mower.Also from what I hear from the Toro/ lawnboy reps. is that the 2cycle engine does not meet EPA and it will be discontinued in a few years (or sooner).Craftsman mowers are pretty **** good units, and for the money they are pretty hard to beat.You may also want to look at the Toro 4 cycle mowers, very good mowers for the buck as well.
 
ScottP,
I have a 1 acre lot that is probably about .4 acres of lawn...considering I have mostly driveway.
I'd suggest a tack somewhat along the lines of theTanSedan and go for something less expensive. My current mower is an old Monkey Wards push mower, B&S engine that my neighbor gave to me for free because it ran like garbage. After a tuneup and a carb rebuilt, it's a lot better. Don't get me wrong, it's no pristene machine, but for the little bit of lawn that I have, it works just fine. I treat it to a new plug each year and one or two oil changes a season...just keeps on going. You might be able to find a deal if you have a local small motor repair shop that sells used equipment...I bought my snowblower from such an establishment last fall.
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I had a Jacobsen (1975) that was 21", self-propelled, side-bag that I used the hell out of for over twenty years with the original motor and 25-hour oil changes (small hour meters and tachs are available from several sources) on a 3/4-acre lawn. Hand-trimmed around fences and trees, had over 150-yards of concrete edging and sidewalks that 4-stoke edger had to take care of. I thought I'd died and gone to heaven when the first Weedeaters came out (1972 or so). Then I moved on to the big yard across the street. And plenty of others (man, teenage energy and stamina).

Nowadays, with a quite-small yard, I simply bought a cheap 4hp push from Lowes, mulch it and leave it pretty much alone. Annual spark plug and filter changes; now use LC and FP along with recommended oil changing 2-3 times annually. Rpm is set to single point.

For $150, I can throw it out after 6-7 years and be well ahead on any shop service. While I dislike the approach, the costs involved made it simple.

The real advantage of a better mower is deck design/ergonomics and the rest. I always felt a little safer with the better quality stuff in the turns and push-pull areas. (And preferred front drive for that reason; that little Jake was a great piece, thick alloy deck and all that however many thousands of hours of grass-cutting finally wore a small hole through).

Gasoline weedeaters and edging the lawn to accomodate "no-stop/no-pull" mowing made much of this an easier decision. Not to mention never bagging, as well as mechanical aeration, to keep fertilizer/water bills down. Mowing twice in a week is easier, faster than one big slogging bag job.

Were I to have a yard big enough to warrant a self-propel again, then the above wouldn't apply as readily.

Much of it depends on your climate/geographical region. Had one LawnBoy and it never worked out for me in re customers with thick, tall Bermuda. A commercial version would likely have been okay.
On a shady lot with St Augustine, it (and everything else) never broke a sweat. I wouldn't buy a commercial mower as they're expensive, heavy and a lot more prone to being stolen. (As a kid, the neighbor across the way had an awesome Yazoo, twin-blade -- cutter and chopper. A monster to walk behind all afternoon. The bag must have held three bushels. All until someone broke in to steal it.

Four-stroke and a reasonable maintenance schedule make it all easy for me. I have at least two blades (one sharp, one on mower), extra supplies and a dedicated toolbox for everything. It gets maintenance done up nice and easily.

[ May 13, 2003, 12:33 PM: Message edited by: TheTanSedan ]
 
Toro is the only mower I will ever buy after seeing EVERY landscaper around including a good friend of mine using them. I just replaced my father Toro he gave to me that he bought in 1984 and it runs like a top with only oil/air filter/plug change every spring. I cut a 1/2 acre yard every week during the summer for 15 years and never replaced part or not had it start ever. I would drain the gas and run it until it died each fall and stick it in the shed outside all winter. I finally replaced it because I was sick of pushing a mower. I now have the "Personal Pace" Toro with the 6.5HP and this has got to be the best mower I have ever used. I used my neighbors Honda Harmony for a couple of weeks and the Toro has a much better auto-drive system that knows how fast YOU want to walk and a far-superior mulch capability.
 
FWIW:

If you have a larger lawn, IMO it is better to buy a commercial walk-behind with a large deck, like 36 or 48," than an ordinary ride-on. Plus, you'll get more exercise.

I have reduced the time to mow my 1.0 acre lawn to about an hour (trimming time is extra), using an Exmark Metro 48-inch. Toro bought Exmark about 3 years ago.
 
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