Kirkland 0W-20 Syn, 10,347 Mi, 2022 Honda Accord Hybrid

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Second oil change on this vehicle and oil is still in service. Oil changes have been done with around 10% showing on the Oil Life Monitor. Did change the oil filter on the factory fill oil change but this oil filter (Fram Ultra Synthetic) has now been in service for about 22,000 miles and will be changed when I do finally change this oil. I've used Kirkland Signature 0W-20 Syn for both changes. Decided it was a good time to pull a sample and see if some of the potential issues that hybrid engines can be known for (fuel dilution, water, high resultant wear, etc.) was going to be an issue with my Accord Hybrid I bought new at the end of 2022. I'm exceptionally pleased with this vehicle so far as the hybrid integration is far beyond what I've experienced in other vehicles (we own a 2024 Toyota Sienna hybrid and I've driven some Prii as rentals over the years) and I have many tanks of fuel with over 60 MPG usually running Costco or Sam's Club 85 octane fuel.

From what I gather, things look fine. Think I'm good following Honda's recommendations built in to the car but wish I could snooze the service reminder that pops up every time you start the car beginning with 15% remaining (over 2000 miles on this vehicle). No plans to sample again until maybe well over 100k mi unless I have a reason to be suspicious as an oil analysis with TBN costs about as much as the two oil changes I've done so far on this car.




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This oild seems to really test well. I saw 2 reports on here that compared Mobil 1 0-20 to Kirkland 0-20 in the same vehicle for two 10k runs. The results looked almost identical. You couldn't tell them apart ecxept for looking at the names.
 
That’s the port injected hybrid ICE, right? Will be interesting to see a UOA of the current Honda DI hybrid engine.
 
Haven't found it on sale recently. I'm ashamed to admit I just bought my first box that wasn't on sale a couple of days ago partly because I now have three vehicles using it and all three oil changes came up about the same time and partly because I mistook a few jugs of KS 15W-40 I use in my equipment in my stash for 0W-20. You better believe I walk the automotive/tool isle at Costco every time I go just to see if it's on sale (and because I'm a man). At $38.99 it's still a good deal but it will feel like Christmas if I see the magical $5.00 off on the tag one of these days!
 
Looks fine, but with that TBN number, and the Costco oil on sale this very moment, I don't think you have to delay an oil change. Blackstone misses the point that the idea is to get rid of the old stuff while it is still working perfectly!
 
Saw it go on sale for $30 Thursday a week ago when we were on our way camping pulling a 10k trailer so didn't want to add five boxes to the mix since it's good through most of September. I've been itching to make a special trip just to get oil though I'm going to mask it as a special trip to pick up some indoor palms for my lovely wife's birthday ;).

The UOA serves as confirmation that the factory OLM is set appropriately. The only question that might remain is how much quicker will the oil age and dilution change during the winter run. Seems like there's some conservatism built in so unless I'm smelling all kinds of fuel or seem something suspicious when I check under the hood maybe around February, I'm not going to worry about it much.
 
That’s the port injected hybrid ICE, right? Will be interesting to see a UOA of the current Honda DI hybrid engine.
I believe it's port only. I'm not sure how much of an issue the DI treatment causes these engines so I'm interested as well. I have a brand new Sienna and plan to sample around 15k miles after changing to 0W-20 KS as 5k miles and maybe using the dealership free 0W-16 oil change at 10k miles. I haven't read up on that engine but would assume it's DI.
 
I believe it's port only. I'm not sure how much of an issue the DI treatment causes these engines so I'm interested as well. I have a brand new Sienna and plan to sample around 15k miles after changing to 0W-20 KS as 5k miles and maybe using the dealership free 0W-16 oil change at 10k miles. I haven't read up on that engine but would assume it's DI.
Most of the info I heard about DI is they will have to run leaner to be more efficient, but emission (Nox) will be worse. Most DI would have to run rich at lower throttle to make sense and that would be worse for the oil. This is why a lot of modern DI engine are actually dual injection types, and run port injection for lower throttle.

This is why it does not make sense for fuel efficient oriented hybrid to run direct injection at all especially if they have CVT type transmission.
 
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Second oil change on this vehicle and oil is still in service. Oil changes have been done with around 10% showing on the Oil Life Monitor. Did change the oil filter on the factory fill oil change but this oil filter (Fram Ultra Synthetic) has now been in service for about 22,000 miles and will be changed when I do finally change this oil. I've used Kirkland Signature 0W-20 Syn for both changes. Decided it was a good time to pull a sample and see if some of the potential issues that hybrid engines can be known for (fuel dilution, water, high resultant wear, etc.) was going to be an issue with my Accord Hybrid I bought new at the end of 2022. I'm exceptionally pleased with this vehicle so far as the hybrid integration is far beyond what I've experienced in other vehicles (we own a 2024 Toyota Sienna hybrid and I've driven some Prii as rentals over the years) and I have many tanks of fuel with over 60 MPG usually running Costco or Sam's Club 85 octane fuel.

From what I gather, things look fine. Think I'm good following Honda's recommendations built in to the car but wish I could snooze the service reminder that pops up every time you start the car beginning with 15% remaining (over 2000 miles on this vehicle). No plans to sample again until maybe well over 100k mi unless I have a reason to be suspicious as an oil analysis with TBN costs about as much as the two oil changes I've done so far on this car.




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Thanks for providing this 10,000 mile UOA report.
Blackstone recommends 12k OCI for your use case. Kirkland oil is all you need.
 
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Lots of people think the OLM is fiction too.

Because there have been MANY random automobiles over the years that have shown crazy engine wear / damage if following the OLM. My GMC Acadia is a good example with tons of oil burning / timing chain issues due to extended OCIs. I keep mine short and have ZERO issues.

Many properly designed engines can run it down to 0% oil life without issue though so it’s model dependent as well as the driving conditions. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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