Judge approves Ford transmission class action lawsuit settlement

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Originally Posted by PowerSurge
Originally Posted by thastinger
Originally Posted by Kira
Man! What is it with Ford and automatic transmissions?


Nothing...my 4R100 in my 98 4x4 F150 has an issue free 200K on it



Your F150 truck didn't come with a 4R100 from the factory. Unless you've changed it out, yours has the 4R70. The 4R100 was developed for the Lightning and also used in Super Duty's.


The 4R100 was also used in the Expedition behind the 5.4L, we've owned 3x of them with that transmission and it provided excellent service.
 
The only Ford product I like and would ever own is a V8 Mustang with a standard transmission. Which I think is one of the best sports cars made.
 
Originally Posted by rob1715
This is 2020, not 1920. Transmissions should not be doing this with the tech we have.

Despite the abundance of info available, doesn't mean educated decisions will be made.
Especially by those in higher positions.

….makes you wonder what other terrible designs are being offered in the current automotive marketplace.
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as GREEDY vehicle manufactures look for more profits like BIG PHARMA + trying for better mps + meeting the EPA standards crappy stuff will continue to sell!!! at least they are not killing or making people crazy like BIG PHARMA!! we lill see how the CVT"S fare as the years + miles pass + as noted with the cost of todays vehicles they should be better!!
 
Originally Posted by benjy
as GREEDY vehicle manufactures look for more profits like BIG PHARMA + trying for better mps + meeting the EPA standards crappy stuff will continue to sell!!! at least they are not killing or making people crazy like BIG PHARMA!! we lill see how the CVT"S fare as the years + miles pass + as noted with the cost of todays vehicles they should be better!!

This!
 
Originally Posted by sloinker
E4OD, the worst 4 speed automatic ever built for the first 3 years of its production. The reason I will never spend a cent on another Ford product.

my mom had an 83 ltd with this trans. car traded in at 130k and the trans never gave any trouble. got its first fluid change at 100k.
 
Originally Posted by Cujet
Maybe it's time to pick up a cheap used Fiesta....


The thing is, they are not particularly cheap used. Which all by itself makes you wonder exactly how bad the problem really is.
 
Originally Posted by PowerSurge
Originally Posted by thastinger
Originally Posted by Kira
Man! What is it with Ford and automatic transmissions?


Nothing...my 4R100 in my 98 4x4 F150 has an issue free 200K on it



Your F150 truck didn't come with a 4R100 from the factory. Unless you've changed it out, yours has the 4R70. The 4R100 was developed for the Lightning and also used in Super Duty's.


A 1998 5.4L F150 could in fact have a E4OD/4R100. They are simply Fords heavy duty 4 speed automatic....Certainly not developed for a low volume vehicle like the Lightning.
 
Originally Posted by super20dan
Originally Posted by sloinker
E4OD, the worst 4 speed automatic ever built for the first 3 years of its production. The reason I will never spend a cent on another Ford product.

my mom had an 83 ltd with this trans. car traded in at 130k and the trans never gave any trouble. got its first fluid change at 100k.


It would've had a AOD which morphed into the AOD-E & 4R70W. Heavy Duty 4 speed OD automatics didn't arrive until 1990 with the Chrysler A618 & Ford E4OD, GM followed suit in 1991 with the 4L80E. The 4L80E was the only one ever put in passenger cars which were all British (Jaguar, Bentley, Rolls Royce, Aston Martin)
 
Originally Posted by clinebarger
Originally Posted by PowerSurge
Originally Posted by thastinger
Originally Posted by Kira
Man! What is it with Ford and automatic transmissions?


Nothing...my 4R100 in my 98 4x4 F150 has an issue free 200K on it



Your F150 truck didn't come with a 4R100 from the factory. Unless you've changed it out, yours has the 4R70. The 4R100 was developed for the Lightning and also used in Super Duty's.


A 1998 5.4L F150 could in fact have a E4OD/4R100. They are simply Fords heavy duty 4 speed automatic....Certainly not developed for a low volume vehicle like the Lightning.


Incorrect. The E4OD is not the same as the 4R100. A 1998 F150 5.4 will have a 4R70. The Lightning was originally intended for a 1998 release and the 4R100 was developed by Roush with the Lightning. The 4R70 could not survive the 450 ft/pds of torque the Lightning puts out. In fact, the 4R100 won't survive without Torque Reduction during shifts. The Lightning release was delayed until 1999.5. In the meantime, the 4R100 was used in the Super Duty AFTER being developed for the delayed Lightning. A lot of Super Duty fans will tell you the 4R100 was developed for the Super Duty. They are incorrect.

No 1998 F150 came with a 4R100 from the factory.
 
Expeditions 99-03 some had the 4r100
The only F150s that came with the 4R100 are the Lightnings and the supercharged Harley-Davidson F150s
 
Originally Posted by PowerSurge
Incorrect. The E4OD is not the same as the 4R100. A 1998 F150 5.4 will have a 4R70. The Lightning was originally intended for a 1998 release and the 4R100 was developed by Roush with the Lightning. The 4R70 could not survive the 450 ft/pds of torque the Lightning puts out. In fact, the 4R100 won't survive without Torque Reduction during shifts. The Lightning release was delayed until 1999.5. In the meantime, the 4R100 was used in the Super Duty AFTER being developed for the delayed Lightning. A lot of Super Duty fans will tell you the 4R100 was developed for the Super Duty. They are incorrect.

No 1998 F150 came with a 4R100 from the factory.


The 4R100 was a slightly updated version of the E4OD from what I can find. The E4OD was used in the 1997/1998 Expedition behind the 5.4L, replaced with the 4R100 for 1999.
 
The only thing Ford is good as it E450 Econoline cutaway vans that get 8-10 MPG and ... nope, just that.
 
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by PowerSurge
Incorrect. The E4OD is not the same as the 4R100. A 1998 F150 5.4 will have a 4R70. The Lightning was originally intended for a 1998 release and the 4R100 was developed by Roush with the Lightning. The 4R70 could not survive the 450 ft/pds of torque the Lightning puts out. In fact, the 4R100 won't survive without Torque Reduction during shifts. The Lightning release was delayed until 1999.5. In the meantime, the 4R100 was used in the Super Duty AFTER being developed for the delayed Lightning. A lot of Super Duty fans will tell you the 4R100 was developed for the Super Duty. They are incorrect.

No 1998 F150 came with a 4R100 from the factory.


The 4R100 was a slightly updated version of the E4OD from what I can find. The E4OD was used in the 1997/1998 Expedition behind the 5.4L, replaced with the 4R100 for 1999.


Only the cases are similar. The E4OD and 4R100 share no internal parts. http://www.f150hub.com/trans/4r100.html
 
Originally Posted by zzyzzx
Originally Posted by Cujet
Maybe it's time to pick up a cheap used Fiesta....


The thing is, they are not particularly cheap used. Which all by itself makes you wonder exactly how bad the problem really is.


Friend of mine just bought a 17 at a pretty decent price with low miles. I sent him all the info about what a POS the "automatic" transmission in the Focus and Fiesta is, links from Detroit News,Class action details etc.

He stopped considering the Focus he had been looking at [details of tranny problems right there in the CarFax ] and bought the Fiesta anyway. His wife had had one a few years ago. Maybe they got a good one [cue laugh track].

Hey, y'all: I tried. Any grief he has with his purchase is all on him now.
 
Originally Posted by PowerSurge
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by PowerSurge
Incorrect. The E4OD is not the same as the 4R100. A 1998 F150 5.4 will have a 4R70. The Lightning was originally intended for a 1998 release and the 4R100 was developed by Roush with the Lightning. The 4R70 could not survive the 450 ft/pds of torque the Lightning puts out. In fact, the 4R100 won't survive without Torque Reduction during shifts. The Lightning release was delayed until 1999.5. In the meantime, the 4R100 was used in the Super Duty AFTER being developed for the delayed Lightning. A lot of Super Duty fans will tell you the 4R100 was developed for the Super Duty. They are incorrect.

No 1998 F150 came with a 4R100 from the factory.


The 4R100 was a slightly updated version of the E4OD from what I can find. The E4OD was used in the 1997/1998 Expedition behind the 5.4L, replaced with the 4R100 for 1999.


Only the cases are similar. The E4OD and 4R100 share no internal parts. http://www.f150hub.com/trans/4r100.html


Pretty similar to the 4R70 and the AOD. Genetically related, but with significant upgrades.
 
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by PowerSurge
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by PowerSurge
Incorrect. The E4OD is not the same as the 4R100. A 1998 F150 5.4 will have a 4R70. The Lightning was originally intended for a 1998 release and the 4R100 was developed by Roush with the Lightning. The 4R70 could not survive the 450 ft/pds of torque the Lightning puts out. In fact, the 4R100 won't survive without Torque Reduction during shifts. The Lightning release was delayed until 1999.5. In the meantime, the 4R100 was used in the Super Duty AFTER being developed for the delayed Lightning. A lot of Super Duty fans will tell you the 4R100 was developed for the Super Duty. They are incorrect.

No 1998 F150 came with a 4R100 from the factory.


The 4R100 was a slightly updated version of the E4OD from what I can find. The E4OD was used in the 1997/1998 Expedition behind the 5.4L, replaced with the 4R100 for 1999.


Only the cases are similar. The E4OD and 4R100 share no internal parts. http://www.f150hub.com/trans/4r100.html


Pretty similar to the 4R70 and the AOD. Genetically related, but with significant upgrades.


Exactly.
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Originally Posted by PowerSurge
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by PowerSurge
Incorrect. The E4OD is not the same as the 4R100. A 1998 F150 5.4 will have a 4R70. The Lightning was originally intended for a 1998 release and the 4R100 was developed by Roush with the Lightning. The 4R70 could not survive the 450 ft/pds of torque the Lightning puts out. In fact, the 4R100 won't survive without Torque Reduction during shifts. The Lightning release was delayed until 1999.5. In the meantime, the 4R100 was used in the Super Duty AFTER being developed for the delayed Lightning. A lot of Super Duty fans will tell you the 4R100 was developed for the Super Duty. They are incorrect.

No 1998 F150 came with a 4R100 from the factory.


The 4R100 was a slightly updated version of the E4OD from what I can find. The E4OD was used in the 1997/1998 Expedition behind the 5.4L, replaced with the 4R100 for 1999.


Only the cases are similar. The E4OD and 4R100 share no internal parts. http://www.f150hub.com/trans/4r100.html



Really.....What's exactly different, I'll wait
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.......Developed for Lightning.....I guess PTO provisions helped a lot!

It could be the Expedition I was thinking of.
 
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