I will see if I can find it. It was just always $20 oil changes for the life of the car. I never thought about it until I looked at the price of synthetic oils, the price I was paying, and the way they call it a blend and came to the conclusion there was no way I was gettting a standard synethitc oil sinice they didn't even call it that.
Is "synthetic blend" a legal term to use a cheaper oil?
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I will see if I can find it. It was just always $20 oil changes for the life of the car. I never thought about it until I looked at the price of synthetic oils, the price I was paying, and the way they call it a blend and came to the conclusion there was no way I was gettting a standard synethitc oil sinice they didn't even call it that.
I do not think there is much of a legal definition for a "blend" other than you are getting some of each.
The $20 synthetic oil change is to get you in the door. Then they upsell you until you spend $75 to $100.
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Poor assumption ... new to the forum.
No as far as I know, base stock can be 1% syn and called a syn blend a full syn to me would be >80 syn base stock
Yes it's cheaper but should be good enough to meet the manufacturer requirements and preserve the warranty. You can probably pay the difference for full synthetic if you want to but mostly it's about getting vehicles in so they can recommend further, high profit service... keep the bays full at all times. It's not a bad deal for the vehicle owner if they learn to say "no" or "I'll have to wait on that", unless they take so long to do the oil change that you can't be stuck there sitting around for hours or have to get other transportation to drop the vehicle off.
As a Professional Engineer, no such definition or standard exists anywhere on this planet.
As others have said, if your selected oil meets the specifications ( usually a viscosity and maybe an agency rating like API, SAE etc. and possibly a unique quality) then its approved for your vehicle.
Don't get in the trap of arguing "advertising terms" because its an endless waste of time and energy.
If you blend a high VI group base II oil with a group III base oil and the resultant base oil mixture has a VI over 120 are you now allowed to consider this mixture a group III base oil?And what does "full synthetic" even mean?
I know a guy that used to buy and sell PCMO and added a quart of Mobil 1 to the drum and then it was a "syn blend"
I believe Magnatec syn blend gave better results than their full syn. I remember when it was giving stellar results in Ecoboost engines. I don't think it's produced any longer, too bad.
Words should have meaning... But unfortunately at times and in certain circumstances in today's time words do not have a lot of meaning.
Like stupid paper towels packages that say 6=8... Numbers I know... But it still off to a good degree...
No... What that really means is that they have made paper towel rolls smaller...
Then when they make them a bit bigger per roll.... Then they can say something stupid like now.... 6=8.
Like stupid paper towels packages that say 6=8... Numbers I know... But it still off to a good degree...
No... What that really means is that they have made paper towel rolls smaller...
Then when they make them a bit bigger per roll.... Then they can say something stupid like now.... 6=8.
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What does the vehicle say it requires in the owner's manual? If it has different oil change intervals for conventional and synthetic are you following the conventional interval with your Blend?
What does your paperwork say they were required to provide for their $20 for life oil changes?
In the USA no legal definition of Conventional, Synthetic Blend and Full Synthetic exist.
They are marketing terms. When most people here refer to a Conventional they mean an oil made with all Group I/Group II Base. When they say Blend they mean with a significant portion of Group III or above. When they say Synthetic they mean all Group III or above bases. I am of course excluding the additive carrier from my definition of basis.
A Blend can cover a lot of ground.
80% GI / 20% GIII
75% GII+ / 25% GIV (PAO)
50%GII+ / 50% GIII+ (GTL)
The first Blend would likely barely make the grade as an API 20W-50 and the #2 Oil would rival many standard grade synthetics while #3 could qualify for GM Dexos 1 Gen 2.
FWIW, Smitty's syn blend at Kmart is 10% PAO group IV, the rest group II
Of course, that can change, but that's what it was the last time I got oil at Kmart, and this was also before SP
Of course, that can change, but that's what it was the last time I got oil at Kmart, and this was also before SP
Valvoline durablend circa 2003.. that was a blend. Now we have blends of grp11 and grp111 and they don’t have the odor. Where is that strong odor from and oil that has great solvency?
So smittys super s synblend is 10% grp III and 90% grp II? How does one obtain this information?
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