Is Maxlife Extended Protection ATF a true full synthetic

[FlyingTexan]

Hard to find any info on the new bottle. Is it a true full synthetic? I was recently reading where the ZF LIFEGUARD 8 is actually a semi synthetic. I'm going to be dropping and replacing the pan/filter so figured I'd put a true synthetic in it.

 

[DougR]

You'll find a product information sheet and FAQ on this webpage https://shop.valvolineglobal.com/pr...wRgxo6TKSI20ri4J4W7WsRw_CgWRA95yluL&Size=1+GA

 

[dubber09]

I'd think they wouldn't say that if it wasn't.
Also, imho, if your application isn't very demanding and regular Maxlife is compatible and works well then there is no need to spend more, sounds like you are on top of maintenance.

 

[FlyingTexan]

You'll find a product information sheet and FAQ on this webpage https://shop.valvolineglobal.com/pr...wRgxo6TKSI20ri4J4W7WsRw_CgWRA95yluL&Size=1+GA

yea but that's like every manufacturer saying their product is a full synthetic when it's a group III based oil

 

[FlyingTexan]

I'd think they wouldn't say that if it wasn't.
Also, imho, if your application isn't very demanding and regular Maxlife is compatible and works well then there is no need to spend more, sounds like you are on top of maintenance.

Different standards and marketing. Liqui Moly for instance isn't allowed to call most their oils a full synthetic in Germany because they are based off group III oils and are not a true synthetic. Amsoil is a true syntetic, charges for it sure, but also says it's good for 180k miles. I don't believe that either but looking at their bearing wear test for differential fluid they were the clear winner. But if the Valvoline EP is a true synthetic then I'll keep flushing with it. I do get demanding on it.

 

[The Critic]

But if the Valvoline EP is a true synthetic then I'll keep flushing with it. I do get demanding on it.

For automatic transmissions, I would be more concerned about the additive system and the resulting frictional characteristics than the base oil used.

 

[FlyingTexan]

For automatic transmissions, I would be more concerned about the additive system and the resulting frictional characteristics than the base oil used.

So "Is Maxlife Extended Protection ATF a true full synthetic"?

 

[The Critic]

So "Is Maxlife Extended Protection ATF a true full synthetic"?

 

[CharBaby]

For the way that you are asking the question I’d say NO, it’s not synthetic for the way that you want a real full synthetic. However I would say that it is
Group III according to the Safety Data Sheet (Section 3) that “The Critic” has provided.

 

[dnewton3]

How is this question any different than when speaking to the topic of motor oil? The OP should know by now that “synthetic” is just a marketing word. Grp III is “synthetic” as far as the N.A. market is concerned. If you want a more detailed answer, then ask a more detailed question. The Critic has posted the PDS.

 

[wemay]

It's a Grp3 synthetic, not PAO or Ester based. You may want to visit HPL's or Amsoil's websites instead. Once there, try to find their MSDS.

 

[RooflessVW]

So "Is Maxlife Extended Protection ATF a true full synthetic"?

What would be gained if it was?

 

[4WD]

Been using VEP in my 6L80e since it came out but don't recall it being "MaxLife" ...
Think it's a Grp3.
And yes, I too heard ZF8 is a semi like the original Dex VI ...
Might use VEP in the 850RE post warranty ...

 

[kschachn]

“Premium Full Synthetic” right on the label.

So much silly and misleading information. Synthetic means just that, synthesized. Group III hydrocracked base is synthesized all day long.

 

[kschachn]

How is this question any different than when speaking to the topic of motor oil? The OP should know by now that “synthetic” is just a marketing word. Grp III is “synthetic” as far as the N.A. market is concerned. If you want a more detailed answer, then ask a more detailed question. The Critic has posted the PDS.

It’s synthetic by the definition of nearly all the world, not just North America. It’s not just a marketing term. It is synthesized.

 

[martinq]

Aside from Amsoil and HPL you can also check out Red Line and Motul.

 

[FlyingTexan]

How is this question any different than when speaking to the topic of motor oil? The OP should know by now that “synthetic” is just a marketing word. Grp III is “synthetic” as far as the N.A. market is concerned. If you want a more detailed answer, then ask a more detailed question. The Critic has posted the PDS.

I do know that which is why OP asked in the first place. I asked if it was a true full synthetic. There are several that are and I know many make claims in the US but really aren’t. Redline, Motul, Amsoil, so far seem to be. After seeing the results of Amsoil gear fluid I was debating if when doing this change if I should just go all in on Amsoil.

 

[FlyingTexan]

What would be gained if it was?

the same as engine oils? Seems like Amsoil does the best in the gear fluids and their claims of being 180,000 mile level tranny fluid is rather impressive.

 

[kschachn]

I do know that which is why OP asked in the first place. I asked if it was a true full synthetic. There are several that are and I know many make claims in the US but really aren’t. Redline, Motul, Amsoil, so far seem to be. After seeing the results of Amsoil gear fluid I was debating if when doing this change if I should just go all in on Amsoil.

It is a true synthetic.

You might be unhappy with the composition of the synthesized base but that is a different subject.

And again it’s not just the US. Which claimed synthetics here are not synthetic?

 

[nascarnation]

If you want a PAO base for whatever reason get something with Allison TES-295/TES-668 spec but realize you probably don't need it.