Is M1 EP rated ACEA A5/B5???

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Is Mobil 1 Extended Performance 5W-30 rated as ACEA A5/B5???? In the Mobil 1 website is rated as ACEA A1/B1 but in Amazon the picture of the bottle carries both ratings. So, what gives? either the website is wrong, or the A5/B5 rating was dropped recently??
 
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That is an old bottle. The new M1 bottles do indeed show an ACEA downgrade, a process which started over the summer. No 20-grade M1 has any ACEA rating anymore. Plain 5w20, AFE 0w20, EP 5w20, EP 0w20. None are ACEA anymore. The 30-grades are now only A1/B1 and no more A5/B5. This applies to all 30's except HM 10w30 which is A3/B3 (see below) 5w30 10w30 AFE 0w30 EP 5w30 EP 10w30 HM 5w30 M1 HM 10w30, and all passenger-car 40's (except 0w40), and 15w50 are now only A3/B3 and no more A3/B4. HM 10w30 HM 10w40 5w40 15w50 [TDT 5w40 is E7 since it's more of an HDEO, like Rotella T6, but even here M1 TDT doesn't have ACEA E9 which other HDEO's do have] 0w40 and 5w50 are the only M1 oils that are still A3/B4. (Yeah, I didn't know they offered 5w50 over here, either. It must be new! Now the question is, has anyone seen 5w50 in Walmart yet?) There are no A5/B5 M1 oils in the US frown FWIW, PP and Edge *do* meet A5/B5 in 5w30.
 
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Originally Posted By: tommygunn
(Yeah, I didn't know they offered 5w50 over here, either. It must be new! Now the question is, has anyone seen 5w50 in Walmart yet?)
It's not new, but according to XOM, it's a limited distribution product, not sold at most retailers.
 

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Why, Oh God, why???? seriously, what could be the reason for the downgrade? Since A5/B5 differs from A1/B1 in: shearing stability, resistance to biodiesel and a wear test in a diesel engine. I think that the reason is the shearing stability, because if it were for the diesel part they could do like Valvoline and just rate their oil as A1/A5. And what would be the effect of using an A1/B1 oil in a car that requires A5/B5?? Time to move away from M1??
 
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: tommygunn
(Yeah, I didn't know they offered 5w50 over here, either. It must be new! Now the question is, has anyone seen 5w50 in Walmart yet?)
It's not new, but according to XOM, it's a limited distribution product, not sold at most retailers.
Napa has carried it for some time. It has in the past been included in their M1 sale pricing. Napa M1 5W50
 
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Originally Posted By: tommygunn
[TDT 5w40 is E7 since it's more of an HDEO, like Rotella T6, but even here M1 TDT doesn't have ACEA E9 which other HDEO's do have]
The Delvac 1 5w-40 does have that, along with E7, and the Delvac 1 LE 5w-30 throws an E6 on top of that.
 
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Originally Posted By: tenderloin
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: tommygunn
(Yeah, I didn't know they offered 5w50 over here, either. It must be new! Now the question is, has anyone seen 5w50 in Walmart yet?)
It's not new, but according to XOM, it's a limited distribution product, not sold at most retailers.
Napa has carried it for some time. It has in the past been included in their M1 sale pricing. Napa M1 5W50
Thanks! I remember seeing it somewhere, just couldn't recall where.
 
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Originally Posted By: tenderloin
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: tommygunn
(Yeah, I didn't know they offered 5w50 over here, either. It must be new! Now the question is, has anyone seen 5w50 in Walmart yet?)
It's not new, but according to XOM, it's a limited distribution product, not sold at most retailers.
Napa has carried it for some time. It has in the past been included in their M1 sale pricing. Napa M1 5W50
Yes, this is the ONLY place I have actually seen it on the shelf/in the rack.
 
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Here in Sweden Mobile 1 FE 0w30 is the only A5/B5 oil from Mobile i can find. Mobil 1 Fuel Economy 0W-30 uppfyller eller överträffar kraven enligt: ACEA A1/B1, A5/B5 API SL, SJ I just got my order from Estonia for better price than here in Sweden
 
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