Is Honda PS Fluid Anything Special?
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Honda compatible is fine, no need to get genuine Honda fluid.
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I never use dealership ps fluid. I always use Preston Asian formula ps fluid.
Honda PS is indeed different from most 'normal' PS fluids (If memory serves, it is thicker and contains a pile of AW additives in one form or another), but there are several alternatives that work just fine. You just don't want to go throwing a 'regular' PS fluid in there.
I have used the O'Reilly house brand Honda specific PS fluid. Much cheaper and it comes in a quart bottle.
I've been using the Lubegard stuff. Works plenty fine and also comes in the quart bottle. Cheaper than OEM by a little.
Found the post I was looking for: (Pulled from MolaKule's Postings)
1. A slightly higher viscosity than other PSF's or ATFs.
2. A zddp AW package similar to that of an SL motor oil.
3. Special dispersants and friction modifiers."
And also from Mola, a VOA:
Appearance Lt. Pale
Flash, COC, Deg F. 355
Pour Point, Deg F. -40
Viscosity, cSt At 40 C. 53.75
At 100 C. 11.34
Viscosity Index MIN 205
Viscosity, Brookfield cP @ -40C < 64000
Oxidation Stability, D-2272 > 200 minutes
Copper Corrosion 3A Max.
Zn Content, ppm. 1500
P Content, ppm. 1300
Mg Content, ppm 580
Ca Content, ppm 220
TBN, ASTM D-4739 5.0
Honda PSF UOA
This just in. Unfortunately I dont have a way to tell really "how many miles on oil". and so I dont understand how many miles those "universal averages" are for either. But lets take a look at this "honda" oil - Viscosity's right on the border of a 20/30 weight. Its loaded with Zn, P and Mg...
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1. A slightly higher viscosity than other PSF's or ATFs.
2. A zddp AW package similar to that of an SL motor oil.
3. Special dispersants and friction modifiers."
And also from Mola, a VOA:
Appearance Lt. Pale
Flash, COC, Deg F. 355
Pour Point, Deg F. -40
Viscosity, cSt At 40 C. 53.75
At 100 C. 11.34
Viscosity Index MIN 205
Viscosity, Brookfield cP @ -40C < 64000
Oxidation Stability, D-2272 > 200 minutes
Copper Corrosion 3A Max.
Zn Content, ppm. 1500
P Content, ppm. 1300
Mg Content, ppm 580
Ca Content, ppm 220
TBN, ASTM D-4739 5.0
IMO it’s nothing special, it’s just significantly different from everyone else’s racks that live on plain ATF. It’s different just to be different, like their ATF because they use what’s essentially an automated manual transmission with shift forks and pads.
Not quite, or at least not since the 80's/early 90's.
They're all hydraulic multi-plate clutches now (speaking specifically of the Z1/Dw1 'required' transmissions, 5/6 speeds). One clutch pack per gear.
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I was going by what Mola said during a discussion on the mid-00’s Odyssey transmissions. There was a diagram; that’s all I really know about them. I ditched it for 4EATs and 6F35 and 8F35s. Thanks!
Honda dealers use any PSF “service solution” from the MOC, Wynn’s or BG man.
I’ve only seen genuine Honda(made by Idemitsu) fluid used at the dealer for warranty work.
I’ve only seen genuine Honda(made by Idemitsu) fluid used at the dealer for warranty work.
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Ive been curious about that stuff. Tempted to try it.
LG is one of those companies that I trust to not make a bad product. Not saying I use everything they make, but I don't have any qualms with using something of theirs if it fits my need. I've been wanting to try their ATF, but can't really find it for a price that makes sense when Maxlife is so widely available and reasonably priced.
same here, works just fine
It will be fine! I have been using aftermarket Honda-compatible PS fluid for 6+ years and all is well.
The fastest way to clear the system is to remove the top hose from the reservoir and stuff it in a collection tank, and ready a few bottles of new fluid. Then, have a helper start the car and turn the wheel back and forth as you pour new fluid into the system, until the stuff going into your collection tank is cleaner. Then simply reattach the top hose to the reservoir and fill it to the correct level.
Note: take care to not dump new fluid into the reservoir too fast as it will gladly run out of the top attachment…
