I got this finally to work. I used another empty seagate HD to test this out. I'm kinda glad I did. I use the seagate HD disc wizard to clone everything over. Well, it all went good until I booted. I got the same message again that windows didn't start up right. So I kept rebooting, then a third try when I rebooted I got "lass.exe: insufficient system resources exist to complete the api" so I rebooted with an XP disc in the pc, the pc booted straight into windows. freakin weird, I didn't install anything or saw the pc install anything from the xp disc I put in. but I took the xp disc out, rebooted and everything booted great. the copy process worked.
Install 2nd IDE hard drive, problems booting xp
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another problem. since my goal was to take my 5 yr old full hard drive and boot from it with windows xp. the cloned hard drive had everything copied over. I know now that this hard drive will work with this mobo. But everything got written over. I'll lose almost 120 gb of storage if I clone it like I did with the seagate disc wizard. I thought for some reason with the 160 gb of the working windows xp on the C drive. D was empty. I thought the C drive would have copied over and that was it, since D drive was empty. But instead, since the D drive was empty, it copied an empty drive over the F drive with data on it and made it empty too.
Before seagate disc wizard estimates
C: 2.9 GB out of 10 used E: 4GB out of 20GB used
D: 100 out of 110 free F 140 out of 140 free
After seagate disc wizard estimates
C: 4gb out of 10 used E 4 out of 120 used
D: 110 out of 110 free F: 140 out of 140 free
so I lost data on the seagate tester, I just wanted to copy windows over so the master drive can boot with this mobo.
I'm now trying to use an XP cd to repair windows, but it's asking for an administrator's password?? It's not mine that's for sure, after 3 attempts, it kicks me out.
Before seagate disc wizard estimates
C: 2.9 GB out of 10 used E: 4GB out of 20GB used
D: 100 out of 110 free F 140 out of 140 free
After seagate disc wizard estimates
C: 4gb out of 10 used E 4 out of 120 used
D: 110 out of 110 free F: 140 out of 140 free
so I lost data on the seagate tester, I just wanted to copy windows over so the master drive can boot with this mobo.
I'm now trying to use an XP cd to repair windows, but it's asking for an administrator's password?? It's not mine that's for sure, after 3 attempts, it kicks me out.
Hold on a second, the seagate tool should let you copy a partition over and resize it at the same time. If it doesn't try to "download" or "borrow" a copy of PowerQuest Partition Magic, that's what I use everytime when I relocate my partition to a new drive and re-size a partition as needed.
How did it get so complicated? If you have 3 drives all you should do is:
1) Boot with your new drive (say 160GB) as master, attach a blank (say 100GB) as slave.
2) Blank the 100GB and create a partition on it with 100GB.
3) Copy all your data (family photos, videos, tax returns, love letters, etc, not programs or windows) from the new drive (160GB) to the 100GB partition. I assume it is not enough storage to put all your precious data.
4) Boot with your old drive (say 120GB) as master, attach the blank (100GB) as slave.
5) Copy as much data from the blank (100GB) drive to the 120GB drive as you can without overflowing it. Repeat step 1 to 5 if you cannot fit all your precious data from your new 160GB drive. Your goal is to unload all the data off the 160GB before wiping it out.
6a) Follow this step if you use the seagate tool to copy.
Now your old drive (120GB) and blank drive (100GB) should have all the important data from the new drive (160GB). So boot with the seagate software and re-partition the new drive (160GB) with a continuous partition of full size (160GB), and copy the content of the old drive's partition over (from 120GB to 160GB).
6b) Follow this step if you use partition magic (I would prefer this).
Boot with the seagate tool and blank or delete the new Drive (160GB). Then boot with old hard drive (120GB) and use partition magic to first copy the 120GB partition over.
7) Before you reboot, make sure you disconnect the old drive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
or else your new drive is going to be drive D, E, F, G or H instead of C as expected.
8) If you use partition magic, after booting with the new drive, use partition magic to resize the partition to full. If you use the seagate tool, your partition size should already be full (if not, then it is not supported and you should use partition magic).
9) attach the blank drive (100GB) as slave and copy over all the data you wanted to the new drive.
How did it get so complicated? If you have 3 drives all you should do is:
1) Boot with your new drive (say 160GB) as master, attach a blank (say 100GB) as slave.
2) Blank the 100GB and create a partition on it with 100GB.
3) Copy all your data (family photos, videos, tax returns, love letters, etc, not programs or windows) from the new drive (160GB) to the 100GB partition. I assume it is not enough storage to put all your precious data.
4) Boot with your old drive (say 120GB) as master, attach the blank (100GB) as slave.
5) Copy as much data from the blank (100GB) drive to the 120GB drive as you can without overflowing it. Repeat step 1 to 5 if you cannot fit all your precious data from your new 160GB drive. Your goal is to unload all the data off the 160GB before wiping it out.
6a) Follow this step if you use the seagate tool to copy.
Now your old drive (120GB) and blank drive (100GB) should have all the important data from the new drive (160GB). So boot with the seagate software and re-partition the new drive (160GB) with a continuous partition of full size (160GB), and copy the content of the old drive's partition over (from 120GB to 160GB).
6b) Follow this step if you use partition magic (I would prefer this).
Boot with the seagate tool and blank or delete the new Drive (160GB). Then boot with old hard drive (120GB) and use partition magic to first copy the 120GB partition over.
7) Before you reboot, make sure you disconnect the old drive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
or else your new drive is going to be drive D, E, F, G or H instead of C as expected.
8) If you use partition magic, after booting with the new drive, use partition magic to resize the partition to full. If you use the seagate tool, your partition size should already be full (if not, then it is not supported and you should use partition magic).
9) attach the blank drive (100GB) as slave and copy over all the data you wanted to the new drive.
Pandabear,
Thanks for your patience. It gets mind numbing confusing that's for sure. I'll have to look at the seagate disc wizard again, it was my first time using it last night. I don't believe it gave me an option to resize the hard drive. Just "clone" or "add a hard disc" I went with clone. I notice the screen captures from seagate, I had less options than the downloaded software they listed. I'll work on it again after work tonight and follow up.
Thanks for your patience. It gets mind numbing confusing that's for sure. I'll have to look at the seagate disc wizard again, it was my first time using it last night. I don't believe it gave me an option to resize the hard drive. Just "clone" or "add a hard disc" I went with clone. I notice the screen captures from seagate, I had less options than the downloaded software they listed. I'll work on it again after work tonight and follow up.
If you don't mind "pirating" software. Power Quest is pretty easy to get.
I got Power Quest last night from a torrent. it took almost two hours because there weren't many seeders for the version I picked. I couldn't decide which version to get, so I got 8.0. I'm going to experiment with it when I get home tonight after work. I hope this isn't confusing, but there are three HDs, but I only want to use two HD for the Sony RS520. one is the original 160GB from the Sony RS520 that I want to use as it has a bootable windows and it is larger for my Sony RS520, my own 120 GB HD from my Sony RS220 that is full. the 3rd 100 GB HD, is just a tester I used that was empty. They are all seagate HDs. I'm sure some are reading this, thinking why I'm doing this. Well, the difference between the sony vaio RS 520 and my old sony vaio RS 220 is huge.
RS520
P4 3.0 GHZ HT
2 GB ram
160 GB HD
DVD R+/-RW 2.3x burn spped
an extra DVD Rom tray
6 USB 2.0 ports
RS220
P4 2.5ghz
512 ram (expandable only to 1 gb)
120 GB HD (full)
DVD-RW 1.0X burning speed
an extra CD-rom tray
4 USB ports
I'm upgrading basically.
RS520
P4 3.0 GHZ HT
2 GB ram
160 GB HD
DVD R+/-RW 2.3x burn spped
an extra DVD Rom tray
6 USB 2.0 ports
RS220
P4 2.5ghz
512 ram (expandable only to 1 gb)
120 GB HD (full)
DVD-RW 1.0X burning speed
an extra CD-rom tray
4 USB ports
I'm upgrading basically.
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Originally Posted By: Cutehumor
I'm going to experiment with it when I get home tonight after work.
Just make sure double check if what you are doing make sense before carrying out the final action, and...
1) DON'T FORGET TO UNPLUG THE ORIGINAL DRIVE BEFORE BOOTING, AFTER YOU COPY THE BOOTABLE PARTITION TO THE NEW DRIVE.
2) CHECK OUT THE NEW COPY BEFORE DELETE THE OLD COPY.
This is very important, or else you will end up having drive letter E,F,G, H or what not permanently stuck to it, and have to redo the copy again.
Partition Magic is very easy to use, you can shrink a partition before copying and expand the partition after copying. As long as you follow the 2 safety rules above, you can't screw up.
I'm going to experiment with it when I get home tonight after work.
Just make sure double check if what you are doing make sense before carrying out the final action, and...
1) DON'T FORGET TO UNPLUG THE ORIGINAL DRIVE BEFORE BOOTING, AFTER YOU COPY THE BOOTABLE PARTITION TO THE NEW DRIVE.
2) CHECK OUT THE NEW COPY BEFORE DELETE THE OLD COPY.
This is very important, or else you will end up having drive letter E,F,G, H or what not permanently stuck to it, and have to redo the copy again.
Partition Magic is very easy to use, you can shrink a partition before copying and expand the partition after copying. As long as you follow the 2 safety rules above, you can't screw up.
Originally Posted By: Cutehumor
RS520
P4 3.0 GHZ HT
2 GB ram
160 GB HD
DVD R+/-RW 2.3x burn spped
an extra DVD Rom tray
6 USB 2.0 ports
RS220
P4 2.5ghz
512 ram (expandable only to 1 gb)
120 GB HD (full)
DVD-RW 1.0X burning speed
an extra CD-rom tray
4 USB ports
Why not just
1) copy 40GB worth of important data from 120GB to 100GB.
2) copy that 40GB worth of data from 100GB to 160GB (to prevent both 120GB and 160GB in the same machine and conflict with the boot)
3) Boot with 120GB and shrink the partition to below 100GB
4) Copy the shrunk partition from 120GB to 100GB.
5) Wipe the 120GB clean. Use 100GB as your only drive in the R220 from now on.
6) Plug the fresh 120GB as slave in the R520 with the 160GB as master.
7) Hook up the network and use the network to transfer all the remaining stuff.
This is a much simpler approach. Don't forget also that you can use partition magic to shrink and expand partition at any time. So that you can gradually copy data between partitions and adjust their size in multiple passes, to merge all the stuff into one big partition for your convenience.
Have fun.
RS520
P4 3.0 GHZ HT
2 GB ram
160 GB HD
DVD R+/-RW 2.3x burn spped
an extra DVD Rom tray
6 USB 2.0 ports
RS220
P4 2.5ghz
512 ram (expandable only to 1 gb)
120 GB HD (full)
DVD-RW 1.0X burning speed
an extra CD-rom tray
4 USB ports
Why not just
1) copy 40GB worth of important data from 120GB to 100GB.
2) copy that 40GB worth of data from 100GB to 160GB (to prevent both 120GB and 160GB in the same machine and conflict with the boot)
3) Boot with 120GB and shrink the partition to below 100GB
4) Copy the shrunk partition from 120GB to 100GB.
5) Wipe the 120GB clean. Use 100GB as your only drive in the R220 from now on.
6) Plug the fresh 120GB as slave in the R520 with the 160GB as master.
7) Hook up the network and use the network to transfer all the remaining stuff.
This is a much simpler approach. Don't forget also that you can use partition magic to shrink and expand partition at any time. So that you can gradually copy data between partitions and adjust their size in multiple passes, to merge all the stuff into one big partition for your convenience.
Have fun.
I've had varying levels of success copying smaller drives to larger drives with manufacturers software. Most of the time it doesn't work. I've resorted to using a combination of HDCLONE and BOOTIT NG to copy drives, with 100% success on at least a couple dozen copies. The problem with HDCLONE is that if you copy a 120GB drive to a 160GB drive, it will only copy over 120GB worth of HD sectors and not even XP will see it as a 160GB drive. That's why I use BOOTIT NG after the copy. It will resize the 120GB volume on the 160GB drive to whatever size you choose, in this case 160GB. XP boots fine every time. Like I said, I've only used this process a couple dozen times, but it has worked every time for me.
Originally Posted By: lyle
I've had varying levels of success copying smaller drives to larger drives with manufacturers software. Most of the time it doesn't work. I've resorted to using a combination of HDCLONE and BOOTIT NG to copy drives, with 100% success on at least a couple dozen copies. The problem with HDCLONE is that if you copy a 120GB drive to a 160GB drive, it will only copy over 120GB worth of HD sectors and not even XP will see it as a 160GB drive. That's why I use BOOTIT NG after the copy. It will resize the 120GB volume on the 160GB drive to whatever size you choose, in this case 160GB. XP boots fine every time. Like I said, I've only used this process a couple dozen times, but it has worked every time for me.
There are many software that works. Partition Magic does both at the same time in Windows, so it is one of the many good choices.
I've had varying levels of success copying smaller drives to larger drives with manufacturers software. Most of the time it doesn't work. I've resorted to using a combination of HDCLONE and BOOTIT NG to copy drives, with 100% success on at least a couple dozen copies. The problem with HDCLONE is that if you copy a 120GB drive to a 160GB drive, it will only copy over 120GB worth of HD sectors and not even XP will see it as a 160GB drive. That's why I use BOOTIT NG after the copy. It will resize the 120GB volume on the 160GB drive to whatever size you choose, in this case 160GB. XP boots fine every time. Like I said, I've only used this process a couple dozen times, but it has worked every time for me.
There are many software that works. Partition Magic does both at the same time in Windows, so it is one of the many good choices.
the most important thing youo can do is....take the pictures you want to save ..and burn them to a DVD
EVERY hard drive ever made has failed or will fail ..protect those pictures and back them up! ...
EVERY hard drive ever made has failed or will fail ..protect those pictures and back them up! ...
I had to take a break from this. the wife was getting mad at me that she couldn't use her hard drive for several days. She wanted to use her firefox and her gazallion websites that she has marked in her favorites. I'll retackle this pretty soon.
Well I started working on this again. I got windows xp home and burned it on disc from online. I used the repair windows feature from the disc, I was thinking I could use the xp sticker on the back of the pc when it asked for COA key, but the COA key I have, it's not working for some reason. Windows is not letting me into the system until I put a valid COA key. I'm stuck
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